From: rars-d-request@lysator.liu.se Subject: rars-d Digest V97 #52 X-Loop: rars-d@lysator.liu.se X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/52 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: rars-d@lysator.liu.se Reply-To: rars@lysator.liu.se (Rars mailing-list) ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain rars-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 52 Today's Topics: Re: I can't make it work. Re: Type of circuit RE: Race Results for 4-27 Re: New Version of my Car Re: Indy 500 Some more race results Re: I can't make it work. Re: Race Results for 4-27 Re: I can't make it work. Yes!! (maybe...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:30:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Brooks To: Rars mailing-list Subject: Re: I can't make it work. Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Ralph Scott wrote: :)> :)> I _still_ have a problem with RARS. I compiled a clean version of the :)> source and it ran fine, but then rebooted after it was finished. Then I :) :)Could you narrow it down to a certain line number? :) :)> added our car (my class' car) and added it the list of robots declared, :)> and to the array of cars with head/tail colors, ect. When I compiled it, I :)> got a wierd linker error. I had gotten it before, and I had fixed it :) :)AAhhh. What was the error? I think you Have to compile it in at least :)large or huge model. :) :)> computer. What could I be doing wrong? The car I have is directly out of :)> one of the tutorials, and it's not even one of the advanced ones. Could I :)> have messed up CARZ.CPP? :) :)You *have* to narrow it down. At least to a line in a file. :) :)As hard as it is for you there, it is hard for us to debug via email. I suppose I will have to spend next class period steping through the program to see where it goes wrong. Could it be that I have done something wrong with modifying carz.cpp to accomodate my car? I will do my best to get line numbers tommorrow. Thanks for trying to help, Daniel Brooks | Daniel Brooks -- Email: d-brooks@usa.net | | PGP key fingerprint - DB 10 E4 99 4C B5 86 11 3B 5A BC 56 34 37 57 18 | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:10:07 +0000 From: "Philip Tinney" To: Sebastien TIXIER , rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Type of circuit Message-Id: <9704290115.AA20631@ainet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On 28 Apr 97 at 16:35, rars@lysator.liu.se wrote: > Hello, > > Here's my problem : > > I want to make a general bot ( it can race F1 tracks & oval tracks) > But my bot needs 1 lap to recognize if track is an oval or not. So > it loose lot of time on the first lap if track is an oval. IS there > any way to know the type of circuit before the start of the race ? > For the moment it check if all turn are left or not. > > Tks u in advance. I'd get the the track description. Then check all segments to find the radius of each section. If all segments have a radius => 0 or all segments have a radius of =< 0 then it is an oval. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:31:38 +-200 From: Torben Thellefsen To: "rars@lysator.liu.se" Subject: RE: Race Results for 4-27 Message-ID: <01BC5488.B65D8940@pc-5> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > With only one competing expert, I only ran the novices with the experts > as traffic. Uhm, I thought you had switched to a single division? > This is the point standings for the Unlimited Division. Oh, you did... > Henning Klaskala 18.0 pts (Germany) Lisa > Jurgen Sang 26.0 pts (Germany) Jas > Al Davis 5.0 pts (US) LilBambi > Robert Wilderspin 10.5 pts (Britain) RW > Kim Laurio 12.0 pts (Sweden) Jammer > Sebastien Tixier 14.0 pts (France) Magic > Maido Remm 6.5 pts (Estonia) Apex > Marc Gueury 6.0 pts (Belgium) Bulle A suggestion: How about sorting these according to their points? > Sept. 21 -- Austrian Grand Prix, Osterreichring Do we have that track? Or should I make it? ;-) > Bulle makes a fine first showing. *I* crashed out early. Harumph! > All of the points have been recomputed from the start. All the races > will be run at 100 miles length. Ok, that's confirmation that we only have one division now. The above-quoted statement just got me a little confused, then :-) Alas, lack of time has unfornately kept me from getting Cooper (who *has* competed once) in a more competitive state :-( I hope to get a fast(er) version ready for the last half of the season, though... If time permits ;-) BTW, if any OS/2 RARS users out there want a solution to the problem that during a "batch race" (with runall.dat) the names of the circuits aren't updated in the titlebar of the window, I can mail it to you... I *could* upload a newer version to the ftp site, but my changes aren't "big enough" that I really want to do that... There are some more changes that I'd like to make (again, when time permits :) ). Regards, Torben ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:59:25 +0300 (EET DST) From: Maido Remm To: rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: New Version of my Car Message-Id: <199704291159.OAA27694@ebc.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks, Sebastian, I suppose the guy was me. My e-mail is mremm@ebc.ee As I understand, you submitted this to oval series for (indy500 and onwards). Will it replace your old car or will they compete together? Maido Remm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:06:11 +0300 (EET DST) From: Maido Remm To: rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Indy 500 Message-Id: <199704291206.PAA27768@ebc.ee> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Does someone plan on running a 200 lap race at Indy this year, as in years > past? If so, that would be a good place for lurkers/non-robot writers > (myself being the latter) to really get into writing robots, since you only > have to worry about one track, and a (relatively) simple one at that. > > - Christopher D Lund > If there will be more than one competitor, I will be glad to run it. Actually, if nobody minds, I could use robots from ordinary 50 lap race and run ONE race with 200 laps. Or any other rules - what people would like the most. Submit your bot, deadline is 6th of May incl. :-> In fact I tried this 200 lap race yesterday night with no display and there were only few finishers. Most of the cars were taken out around 50th or 100th lap, probably due to collisions with refueling cars. Maido ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:36:33 -0400 (EDT) From: rscott@NetUSA.Net (Ralph Scott) To: rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Some more race results Message-Id: Content-Type: text It is easy to run races, it is harder to make up the race report. Here are 12 more races that I ran for your and my amusement. 9 cars for 33 laps. The track was imola.trk. The drivers were: Ralph2, Lisa, LilBam, Jas, Jammer, RW, Magic, Apex8, and Bulle. The initial RVG seed was 41028. results of race 1: starting positions: Apex8, Bulle, LilBam, Jammer, RW, Jas, Lisa, Magic, and Ralph2. 1 Jas avg spd 69.08 33 laps 27854 damage 133 fuel 10 pts accum 2 Apex8 avg spd 67.12 33 laps 15408 damage 143 fuel 6 pts accum 3 Jammer avg spd 67.6 30 laps 30449 damage 147 fuel 4 pts accum 4 Lisa avg spd 57.89 28 laps 29225 damage 145 fuel 3 pts accum 5 Ralph2 avg spd 78.07 21 laps 30948 damage 61 fuel 2 pts accum 6 Bulle avg spd 61.38 20 laps 30488 damage 38 fuel 1 pts accum 7 Magic avg spd 71.81 7 laps 30472 damage 112 fuel 0 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 63.33 1 laps 30075 damage 140 fuel 0 pts accum 9 LilBam avg spd 0 0 laps 31552 damage 149 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 2: starting positions: Ralph2, Magic, Lisa, Jas, RW, Jammer, LilBam, Bulle, and Apex8. 1 Jas avg spd 69.63 33 laps 5614 damage 137 fuel 20 pts accum 2 Jammer avg spd 67.3 32 laps 22415 damage 141 fuel 10 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 67.28 32 laps 7138 damage 148 fuel 10 pts accum 4 Magic avg spd 72.94 24 laps 30216 damage 33 fuel 3 pts accum 5 Ralph2 avg spd 77.43 20 laps 30163 damage 64 fuel 4 pts accum 6 Lisa avg spd 60.89 18 laps 30040 damage 52 fuel 4 pts accum 7 Bulle avg spd 64.31 14 laps 31808 damage 72 fuel 1 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 63.92 5 laps 30296 damage 116 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 68.14 2 laps 30030 damage 136 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 3: starting positions: Bulle, Jas, LilBam, RW, Jammer, Ralph2, Magic, Lisa, and Apex8. 1 Magic avg spd 73.01 33 laps 16902 damage 141 fuel 13 pts accum 2 Jas avg spd 69 32 laps 29051 damage 142 fuel 26 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 67.45 31 laps 13953 damage 1 fuel 14 pts accum 4 Jammer avg spd 67.2 31 laps 19019 damage 145 fuel 13 pts accum 5 Lisa avg spd 52.05 24 laps 21877 damage 11 fuel 6 pts accum 6 Bulle avg spd 68.75 13 laps 30222 damage 80 fuel 2 pts accum 7 Ralph2 avg spd 76.37 13 laps 30028 damage 92 fuel 4 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 68.16 3 laps 30300 damage 134 fuel 0 pts accum 9 LilBam avg spd 61.06 1 laps 30243 damage 141 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 4: starting positions: Apex8, Lisa, Magic, Ralph2, Jammer, RW, LilBam, Jas, and Bulle. 1 Jammer avg spd 67.15 33 laps 29039 damage 130 fuel 23 pts accum 2 Bulle avg spd 58.09 29 laps 29441 damage 137 fuel 8 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 65.24 28 laps 30206 damage 18 fuel 18 pts accum 4 Lisa avg spd 55 28 laps 28366 damage 143 fuel 9 pts accum 5 Magic avg spd 73.01 26 laps 30091 damage 25 fuel 15 pts accum 6 Ralph2 avg spd 76.66 15 laps 30197 damage 86 fuel 5 pts accum 7 LilBam avg spd 60.3 2 laps 30251 damage 133 fuel 0 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 67.84 2 laps 30166 damage 138 fuel 0 pts accum 9 Jas avg spd 68.42 1 laps 30059 damage 141 fuel 26 pts accum results of race 5: starting positions: Jas, RW, Ralph2, Magic, Bulle, Apex8, LilBam, Jammer, and Lisa. 1 Magic avg spd 72.75 33 laps 27473 damage 141 fuel 25 pts accum 2 Jammer avg spd 67.32 31 laps 17724 damage 146 fuel 29 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 63.85 27 laps 30072 damage 24 fuel 22 pts accum 4 Jas avg spd 69.31 25 laps 30002 damage 24 fuel 29 pts accum 5 Ralph2 avg spd 78.34 21 laps 30749 damage 62 fuel 7 pts accum 6 Lisa avg spd 51.44 19 laps 30791 damage 39 fuel 10 pts accum 7 Bulle avg spd 66.42 9 laps 30131 damage 98 fuel 8 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 67.5 2 laps 30361 damage 137 fuel 0 pts accum 9 LilBam avg spd 57.4 1 laps 30035 damage 139 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 6: starting positions: Lisa, Jammer, LilBam, Apex8, Bulle, Magic, Ralph2, RW, and Jas. 1 Magic avg spd 72.75 33 laps 25642 damage 141 fuel 35 pts accum 2 Jas avg spd 69.47 32 laps 23388 damage 141 fuel 35 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 63.68 29 laps 27100 damage 17 fuel 26 pts accum 4 Lisa avg spd 59.36 27 laps 27217 damage 3 fuel 13 pts accum 5 Ralph2 avg spd 76.78 18 laps 30349 damage 69 fuel 9 pts accum 6 Jammer avg spd 67.28 17 laps 30025 damage 61 fuel 30 pts accum 7 Bulle avg spd 64.27 13 laps 31431 damage 75 fuel 8 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 62.09 4 laps 30151 damage 122 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 67.63 2 laps 30173 damage 135 fuel 0 pts accum 9 cars for 41 laps. The track was brands.trk. The drivers were: Ralph2, Lisa, LilBam, Jas, Jammer, RW, Magic, Apex8, and Bulle. The initial RVG seed was 20208. results of race 1: starting positions: Lisa, Magic, LilBam, Apex8, Jammer, Bulle, RW, Ralph2, and Jas. 1 Jas avg spd 81.1 41 laps 17943 damage 8 fuel 10 pts accum 2 Bulle avg spd 77.21 40 laps 15216 damage 0 fuel 6 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 76.63 39 laps 18128 damage 13 fuel 4 pts accum 4 Jammer avg spd 75.29 39 laps 20744 damage 28 fuel 3 pts accum 5 Magic avg spd 78.25 26 laps 30860 damage 62 fuel 2 pts accum 6 Lisa avg spd 65.62 25 laps 30667 damage 49 fuel 1 pts accum 7 Ralph2 avg spd 79.34 18 laps 30052 damage 88 fuel 0 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 73.53 1 laps 30306 damage 143 fuel 0 pts accum 9 LilBam avg spd 61.46 1 laps 30053 damage 144 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 2: starting positions: Jas, Ralph2, RW, Bulle, Jammer, Apex8, LilBam, Magic, and Lisa. 1 Jas avg spd 81.14 41 laps 22444 damage 8 fuel 20 pts accum 2 Ralph2 avg spd 80.85 41 laps 28637 damage 14 fuel 6 pts accum 3 Lisa avg spd 80.13 41 laps 14932 damage 143 fuel 5 pts accum 4 Bulle avg spd 79.27 41 laps 15610 damage 1 fuel 9 pts accum 5 Apex8 avg spd 78.59 40 laps 12327 damage 12 fuel 6 pts accum 6 Magic avg spd 78.36 40 laps 25156 damage 17 fuel 3 pts accum 7 Jammer avg spd 75.43 39 laps 18250 damage 28 fuel 3 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 65.08 1 laps 30368 damage 141 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 74.86 1 laps 30016 damage 144 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 3: starting positions: RW, Bulle, Jammer, Magic, Jas, Ralph2, Lisa, LilBam, and Apex8. 1 Jas avg spd 81.31 41 laps 12768 damage 8 fuel 30 pts accum 2 Ralph2 avg spd 80.87 41 laps 28226 damage 14 fuel 12 pts accum 3 Lisa avg spd 80.82 41 laps 11773 damage 142 fuel 9 pts accum 4 Bulle avg spd 79.31 40 laps 19376 damage 1 fuel 12 pts accum 5 Magic avg spd 78.54 40 laps 17047 damage 17 fuel 5 pts accum 6 Apex8 avg spd 77.29 39 laps 14368 damage 13 fuel 7 pts accum 7 Jammer avg spd 75.29 39 laps 29880 damage 28 fuel 3 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 56.76 1 laps 30086 damage 143 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 0 0 laps 30173 damage 145 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 4: starting positions: Apex8, LilBam, Lisa, Ralph2, Jas, Magic, Jammer, Bulle, and RW. 1 Lisa avg spd 81 41 laps 14401 damage 144 fuel 19 pts accum 2 Apex8 avg spd 78.53 40 laps 8835 damage 12 fuel 13 pts accum 3 Magic avg spd 78.43 40 laps 22852 damage 17 fuel 9 pts accum 4 Bulle avg spd 78.43 40 laps 11976 damage 1 fuel 15 pts accum 5 Jammer avg spd 75.41 39 laps 13799 damage 28 fuel 5 pts accum 6 Ralph2 avg spd 80.88 29 laps 30576 damage 53 fuel 13 pts accum 7 Jas avg spd 75.81 25 laps 31003 damage 66 fuel 30 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 69.25 7 laps 30194 damage 121 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 73.96 1 laps 30249 damage 144 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 5: starting positions: Jas, Lisa, Apex8, LilBam, Jammer, RW, Magic, Ralph2, and Bulle. 1 Lisa avg spd 80 41 laps 12098 damage 141 fuel 29 pts accum 2 Magic avg spd 78.41 41 laps 25349 damage 15 fuel 15 pts accum 3 Apex8 avg spd 78.09 41 laps 6054 damage 10 fuel 17 pts accum 4 Jammer avg spd 75.29 39 laps 14104 damage 26 fuel 8 pts accum 5 Bulle avg spd 74.75 39 laps 23717 damage 148 fuel 17 pts accum 6 Jas avg spd 72.9 15 laps 30326 damage 102 fuel 31 pts accum 7 Ralph2 avg spd 78.58 14 laps 30010 damage 102 fuel 13 pts accum 8 LilBam avg spd 64.25 1 laps 30328 damage 141 fuel 0 pts accum 9 RW avg spd 0 0 laps 30327 damage 145 fuel 0 pts accum results of race 6: starting positions: Bulle, Ralph2, Magic, RW, Jammer, LilBam, Apex8, Lisa, and Jas. 1 Jas avg spd 81.09 41 laps 13668 damage 10 fuel 41 pts accum 2 Bulle avg spd 80.62 41 laps 20301 damage 1 fuel 23 pts accum 3 Ralph2 avg spd 80.38 41 laps 24880 damage 15 fuel 17 pts accum 4 Lisa avg spd 80.33 41 laps 19147 damage 145 fuel 32 pts accum 5 Magic avg spd 78.66 40 laps 20465 damage 20 fuel 17 pts accum 6 Apex8 avg spd 78.13 40 laps 10424 damage 14 fuel 18 pts accum 7 Jammer avg spd 74.92 24 laps 30273 damage 72 fuel 8 pts accum 8 RW avg spd 72.79 1 laps 30168 damage 144 fuel 0 pts accum 9 LilBam avg spd 0 0 laps 30269 damage 145 fuel 0 pts accum You know your car needs more work when it would have done better pointswise by just sitting on the side so that it could come in 6th. Also, it appears that the cars are very evenly matched. ---ralph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: rscott@NetUSA.Net (Ralph Scott) To: rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: I can't make it work. Message-Id: Content-Type: text > :)You *have* to narrow it down. At least to a line in a file. > :) > :)As hard as it is for you there, it is hard for us to debug via email. > > I suppose I will have to spend next class period steping through the > program to see where it goes wrong. Could it be that I have done something > wrong with modifying carz.cpp to accomodate my car? I will do my best to > get line numbers tommorrow. It could be. If it bombs after the race, then your car is probably not to blame. I am sure there is a problem when there aren't a sufficient number of cars in the array. ---ralph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 09:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: rscott@NetUSA.Net (Ralph Scott) To: rars@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Race Results for 4-27 Message-Id: Content-Type: text > > With only one competing expert, I only ran the novices with the experts > > as traffic. > > Uhm, I thought you had switched to a single division? Oops forgot to change that part. > > This is the point standings for the Unlimited Division. > > Oh, you did... > > > Henning Klaskala 18.0 pts (Germany) Lisa > > Jurgen Sang 26.0 pts (Germany) Jas > > Al Davis 5.0 pts (US) LilBambi > > Robert Wilderspin 10.5 pts (Britain) RW > > Kim Laurio 12.0 pts (Sweden) Jammer > > Sebastien Tixier 14.0 pts (France) Magic > > Maido Remm 6.5 pts (Estonia) Apex > > Marc Gueury 6.0 pts (Belgium) Bulle > > Sept. 21 -- Austrian Grand Prix, Osterreichring > > Do we have that track? Or should I make it? ;-) Double oops. I don't think anyone will object to you making it. > > Bulle makes a fine first showing. *I* crashed out early. Harumph! > > All of the points have been recomputed from the start. All the races > > will be run at 100 miles length. > > Ok, that's confirmation that we only have one division now. The > above-quoted statement just got me a little confused, then :-) > Alas, lack of time has unfornately kept me from getting Cooper > (who *has* competed once) in a more competitive state :-( I hope to get > a fast(er) version ready for the last half of the season, though... If > time permits ;-) I think I still have the original version on my hard disk, if you like, I can use that version. ---ralph ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 14:55:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Brooks To: Rars mailing-list Subject: Re: I can't make it work. Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Daniel Brooks wrote: :)On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Ralph Scott wrote: [...] :):)> I _still_ have a problem with RARS. I compiled a clean version of the :):)You *have* to narrow it down. At least to a line in a file. :):) :):)As hard as it is for you there, it is hard for us to debug via email. :) :)I suppose I will have to spend next class period steping through the :)program to see where it goes wrong. Could it be that I have done something :)wrong with modifying carz.cpp to accomodate my car? I will do my best to :)get line numbers tommorrow. I spent the whole class period stepping through the RARS program. I found out that it freezes on line 1320 in CARZ.CPP. It only freezes when i==0. Thats when it calls MY car. :-( I stepped through my car as well, and it never even says our name (ie my_name_is() ), it just skips that part of the code. If I figure it out, I'll tell yall. Thanks for every bodys tips, Daniel Brooks | Daniel Brooks -- Email: d-brooks@usa.net | | PGP key fingerprint - DB 10 E4 99 4C B5 86 11 3B 5A BC 56 34 37 57 18 | Ya know, I feel kinda dumb. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:04:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Brooks To: Robot Auto Racing Simulation Subject: Yes!! (maybe...) Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, I think I may have solved the problem. I was trying to take the asine() of an unitialized vairble. I had two varibles to take the asine of, and I used the wrong one. OOps! I'll have to check it at school were I can run RARS, and I'll let yall know what happens. Thanks for all the help every body has given me, Daniel Brooks | Daniel Brooks -- Email: d-brooks@usa.net | | PGP key fingerprint - DB 10 E4 99 4C B5 86 11 3B 5A BC 56 34 37 57 18 | -------------------------------- End of rars-d Digest V97 Issue #52 **********************************