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Today's Topics: Re: rachel similarities Beer Nuts Re: Re: rachel similarities Re: Moose Odp: what a "little bird" told me ... ;-D Re: rachel similarities the whole beautiful rachel thing Re: rachel similarities/owl (remix low) Re: rachel similarities replies Re: rachel similarities Re: rachel similarities texas, etc Re: texas, etc moose and mojave 3 96 Re: rachel similarities Deja vu, motherfuckers Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: firstname.lastname@example.org * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: email@example.com Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 14:34:04 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Re: rachel similarities On Friday I went to a Show at the Double Door (chicago) cause there was a rumor that NOFX was going to play... Anyway this band called the Beer Nuts played... I saw them about 6 or 7 years ago open for Agnostic Front... and they REALLY sucked... Really... they sucked... Any way here they were again and this time they had this really fine looking blond female drummer in this skimpy bikini thing and some othere girl that really had nothing to do with the band up on the stage too... Oh sure they were nice to look at and all with utters flapping in the wind and booty shaking this way and jiggling that way... ummm... did I mention how much they sucked.... anyway my friends and I ignored them and drank a few more beers... well thats my related story... Hot bodies... Bad music... more beer... Crios ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 14:37:12 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Beer Nuts I frogot to mention that the Female drummer in the Beer Nuts was called "Dickless".... hmmmmmmm I wonder why? Crios ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:32:27 -0500 From: o_o_o
Subject: Re: Re: rachel similarities this all makes sense except for utters. maybe you mean udders? I'm now thinking of wharton's Birdy. At 14:34 20-07-98 -0600, you wrote: > On Friday I went to a Show at the Double Door (chicago) cause there was a > rumor that NOFX was going to play... Anyway this band called the Beer Nuts > played... I saw them about 6 or 7 years ago open for Agnostic Front... and > they REALLY sucked... Really... they sucked... Any way here they were again > and this time they had this really fine looking blond female drummer in > this skimpy bikini thing and some othere girl that really had nothing to > do with the band up on the stage too... Oh sure they were nice to look at > and all with utters flapping in the wind and booty shaking this way and > jiggling that way... ummm... did I mention how much they sucked.... anyway > my friends and I ignored them and drank a few more beers... well thats my > related story... Hot bodies... Bad music...more beer... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:25:49 -0500 From: o_o_o Subject: Re: Moose you are right, but last night I fell was also on the comp, and I got those two songs confused. both very good tracks, and I would often just listen to those two on repeat. thank you very much for the guidance as well. I'm guessing the eps will be hard, but at least I know what I'm looking for. At 12:20 20-07-98 -0700, you wrote: >o_o_o wrote: >> >> I've only heard one moose song, but it is very good. it was on one of the >> indie top 20 compilations. maybe called don't ever leave? I'd love to >> know if any of their other songs are as good as that one. > > There's a song by Revolver called Don't Ever Leave. That wasn't a > single though so I doubt that's what you're thinking of. Hmm, moose's > early singles were Jack, Suzanne, and Last Night I Fell Again. I don't > think anything after that would have made it on an indie top 20. It was > probably Jack. They even played that on 120 minutes US. If you're > after that sound then try to find the first three e.p.s. > > aaron ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:28:12 +0200 From: "kyry" Subject: Odp: what a "little bird" told me ... ;-D Yeah, IDAHO is one of the best band on the world ! I recommend all 3 albums to start with...(but especially "this way out" with great song "forever") darek ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:35:18 -0400 From: "Mark Stancombe" Subject: Re: rachel similarities > all this aside, this is a dumb topic and furthermore kind of insulting to > rachel and others in her position. why aren't male musicians in the > public eye equally scrutinized for their looks as female ones are? it's > pretty ridiculous. Not really. There is extensive scientific and sociologocal evidence that suggessts the female of the human species very much appreciates being appreciated for her beauty...mind you, women's liberation authorities and like-minded lesbian women's groups would have you believe differently...just a thought.... Sincerely, Sillabyss... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:28:55 -0500 (EST) From: bLenDER Subject: the whole beautiful rachel thing okay, here's the deal I'm in a band and I've been in bands. I've had females (and males) attracted to me because "I'm an attractive guy in a band." I've had people come up to me and compliment me on my music, which I graciously accept. Some people have even comment on me looking nice, and while it can be a little uncomfortable for me, I do my best to politely accept their compliments. But if anyone said, "I don't like your music, I just came because I think you're hot," I'd be really fucking pissed, and either say fuck off and walk away, or go off on some art/creativity rant. I like to look nice. People like to look good. There's nothing wrong with that. But I do it for myself, because I like it, I don't model myself to attract an audience or to sell more product, I do it because it makes me feel good to look nice, or at least what I consider nice. I've been in bands where we wear matching outfits, or suits, or for one show, all black with toasters strapped to our heads. I guess it's really all just intent and how you use your abilty to be visually noticed and know. Sorry, I have lots of thoughts on this subject... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:48:27 EDT From: KingoGrief@aol.com Subject: Re: rachel similarities/owl (remix low) In a message dated 98-07-20 08:29:59 EDT, mark wrote: << Rachel made me like redheads - especially with that chin length hair cut - absolutely gorgeous...(slobber, slobber...)I apologise that I am indeed male and notice these sorts of things...(sorry to offend any if I have...) >> i've always had a weakness for girls with short red hair (me & charlie brown)...so much that i married one... you not only have my permission to slobber, but my blessing... jeff p.s. the opening track on the forthcoming (28 jul) low remix album (the porter ricks mix of "down") is quite reminiscent of *pygmalion*...give it a listen as soon as you're able... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:50:18 -0400 From: "Mark Stancombe" Subject: Re: rachel similarities > ben, your point is well-taken, and i don't disagree -- what i was > actually getting at earlier was how the sexes aren't *equally* scrutinized > for their looks, even in proportion to the numbers of their fans of > corresponding sexual preferences. that is, i don't think the numbers of > heterosexual males can completely account for how we treat women in the > entertainment industry. but i'm going to stop here b/c noone wants to > read a feminist tirade, especially from me! :) I completely disagree. In the entertainment industry men are "looked at" and "judged" by their looks just as much as women - only this society says that it is okay to stare at a half-naked man. Look at all of the male pronography - they are all aimed at 8-13 year old girls - almost all of these "men" or "boys" work within the entertainment industry...I just think that society picks on the fact that the male as well finds beauty in the opposite sex - why? Because they can....it has always been considered "dirty" for a man to stare at an attractive women, but for a woman the scenario is completely different....The fact that one of the singers in Slowdive is indeed female and attractive has nothing to do with their value as people and as muscians..I know plenty of physically beautiful women who are "unnattractive"... Sincerely, Sillabyss... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:48:11 -0500 From: David Poppie Subject: replies Attention fellow chat people. I appreciated the replys to my for sale list of CD's & vinyl, but if you start a question or hold please confirm or write back. My time is very valuable like yours is, and it is a pain in the ass getting requests and questions with no further reply. I am assuming the party is not interested, but a little common courtesy would be appreciated. Thanks for your time and carry on...sorry for the gripe... David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:23:07 -0600 From: Brad Nicholson Subject: Re: rachel similarities At 12:07 PM 7/20/98 -0500, you wrote: > Rachel happens to be attractive, but even if she was > hideously ugly I think we'd all still like slowdive provided her voice was > the same, and she made the same musical contributions. Case and point, Georgia from Yo La Tengo. Not hideously ugly, but far from attractive, but she has the voice of an angel. b. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:23:54 -0500 From: "Luis B. Abcede" Subject: Re: rachel similarities At 7/20/98 02:05 PM -0400, you wrote: > I am as fond of Gillian and New Order as I am of Slowdive (more > really), but I just don't see the side of things as stated above :-) > They are both beautiful people, anyway. :-) > > love, > Michael hehe ... that's Gillian Anderson (X-Files) not Gillian Gilbert (NewOrder) Sorry, couldn't let that one go ... Luis firstname.lastname@example.org mbr-entertain.neotown.com/whizbang ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:26:45 PDT From: "Pearson R. Coefficient Greer" Subject: texas, etc texas has a lot more going for it than just Sixteen Deluxe, tripping daisy, or the toadies. especially psych-space-dream wise...the reigning kings of drone- Stars of the Lid, are from Austin. Bedhead, Charalambides, Mazinga Phaser,...there's a lot of good stuff from texas. i wish i still lived there...its really not ALL rednecks...now, where i live, tennessee...there's nothing redeeming musically... (except my band) rachel goswell looks like a beauty to me. no need to apologize for saying it really. just don't start typing love poems on the list or typing with one hand. :P -pearson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 98 19:51:36 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Re: texas, etc There was this movie.. ummmm, idon't remember what it was called.... There was a big rock flying at the earth and uhhhhh it was moving really fast... ummmmm.... it was going to squash things.... and ummmmm, it was the size of Texas (pause) woh... that's big. If it was the size of New York that'd be nothing... But since it's the size of Texas... Shiiiiiiiiiit.... That's damn big. Ya know I only saw Slowdive once when they played at the Cabaret Metro (Chicago) on their Souvlaki tour.... And yes I did think Allison was beutiful... but At that moment I thought EVERYTHING was beutifull because the music just does that to you.... Crios ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:12:10 -0700 From: fell from the sun Subject: moose and mojave 3 96 i adore moose, their earlier stuff is shoegazey, i suppose but i really dig their post-sonny of sam stuff, when they turn into what i call "sophisticated pop." just beautiful and detailed, brass, strings, whistling, champagne, everything. i hear that they're planning to put a new album out on their own label, but erm. :~ i really wish mojave 3 were still putting their post-AMT tracks on the upcoming album. The title is dumb too. "Out of Tune?" hm. i still love "tryin' to reach you." stella ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:54:28 -0400 (EDT) From: professor plum Subject: Re: rachel similarities > Not really. There is extensive scientific and sociologocal evidence that > suggessts the female of the human species very much appreciates being > appreciated for her beauty... the very nature of that argument leads me to doubt that such evidence is even *close* to objective! (cf, murray & herrnstein, _the bell curve_ -- it just screams, AGENDA) tell me, which scientists are these that are free to make such sweeping generalizations and essentializations? incredible. > mind you, women's liberation authorities and > like-minded lesbian women's groups would have you believe > differently...just a thought.... 1. the liberation of women is not a bad thing nor a wrong thing, however annoying its proponents might be. 2. what necessary connection does lesbianism bear to feminism? you're stereotyping here. > I completely disagree. In the entertainment industry men are "looked at" > and "judged" by their looks just as much as women what? come on! physical attraction is [generally] so much more important to the public's determination of a female musician's "worth" than the opposite case. i thought that was obvious! part of it lies in the fact that we hesitate to call women "geniuses," rather they're at best "talented" and maybe we might honor them with some bullshit title like "diva." > The fact that one of the singers in > Slowdive is indeed female and attractive has nothing to do with their value > as people and as muscians.. that's what would ideally be the case, but i really don't think everyone subscribes to such a wonderful notion. > I know plenty of physically beautiful women who > are "unnattractive"... totally unrelated... i think ben's testimony really captures what i'm talking about (the one on being in a band and getting remarks on his attractiveness within that context). some comments just *don't* have a place. ; e. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:20:23 -0500 From: Byron Subject: Deja vu, motherfuckers Ugh - what *-=IDIOT=-* fell asleep and let his dick type a post to this list? Jesusfuckgoddamn, fucking drooling morons... "Dur, ah tink dat Miz Uhmarikuh iz purdier dan Miz Yuniverz." "Dur, naw, Miz Yuniverz iz more purdier dan Miz Uhmarikuh... dur." Christ. **FUCK OFF AND DIE!!!** If re-education is truly needed, it will be provided, sans profanity. However let's all PRAY that the individual who thought it would be such a great idea to initiate a GODDAMN BEAUTY CONTEST between members of slowdive and other media figures simply had a lapse of judgement and now sees that such a debate does not and CAN NEVER have **ANYTHING** to offer the readers of this list. Sure, one could argue that perceptions of physical beauty are just as subjective as musical tastes, and music debates occur all the time in this forum - but the idea is that we can go *BUY* music based on the exchange of opinions that we see here. SOMEHOW I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THE READERS OF THIS LIST ARE LOOKING FOR A WIFE/GIRLFRIEND AND ARE IN THE SITUATION OF CHOOSING BETWEEN GILLIAN ANDERSON AND RACHEL GOSWELL. -- ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #106 ********************************
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