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Today's Topics: cds for sale THANKS! Re: MBV-L? Give me info please! chapterhouse list? Re: old uk indy news Re: chapterhouse list? Re: rip slowdive Re: rip slowdive Re: old uk indy news Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) Re: big bunghole pentration Re: rip slowdive Re: old uk indy news Re: big bunghole pentration (jerkoff) Re: big bunghole pentration Terrastock 2 Ponder this... Re: chapterhouse list? Unidentified subject! Re: Ponder this... (your bit about rachel and moving on) Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: firstname.lastname@example.org * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: email@example.com Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 02:40:21 -0700 From: "Tim Warner"
Subject: cds for sale Hello. I'm trying to lighten my load a bit...here are some cds for sale (not auction). First come first serve, prices include postage in the US. I would prefer money orders or (well concealed) cash over checks. Please email me privately at firstname.lastname@example.org if you are interested in any of these. Mojave 3-Love songs on the radio (1 song promo) $5 Tarnation-Mirador $7 Panasonic-Kulma $6 Colfax Abbey-Penetrate $8 Disque 9-Des incurables (noisy bizness) $5 Dreadful Shadows-Buried Again (german goth import) $4 Counting Crows-Carving Out Our Names (KTS, incredible sound) $23 REM-Strange Curriencies single (3 live bsides) $5 REM-Monster $5 Billy Bragg-William Bloke (promo) $5 Armageddon Dildos-Come Armageddon EP (remixes of their cover of Morrissey's 'Every Day is Like Sunday...writing on cover)$4 Stabbing Westward-Violent Mood Swings single (writing on cover) $4 Mulu-Filmstar single (UK import, 3 songs) $5 Bleach-Killing Time $5 Radar Bros. -Radio Edit's ep (Pink Floyd influenced. 5 song radio only US promo) $5 Gorky's Zygotic Myunci-Barafundle $6 Cast-All Change $5 New Fast Automatic Daffodils-Pigeonhole (cutout) $5 Six Finger Satellite-Severe exposure (subpop noize) $6 Moby-what love (promo only 2 song single) $4 Galaxie 500-This is our music (original Rough Trade issue) $10 Mouth-Hole of your head (promo) $5 The Sundays-Summertime (1 song promo) $4 PEZ-Waiting (Rough Trade band, Brit import) $8 Airhead-Boing! (Brit import) $8 Spell-Mississippi (cutout) $4 Gary Numan-Here I Am (import) $8 Manifestation-Axiom Collection (various electrotribal thang) $5 Senser-Stacked Up $5 Purple Ivy Shadows-No Less the trees than the stars (promo, no artwork) $4 Headswim-Despite Yourself $5 Cecil-Bombar Diddlah (UK import) $7 Tripping Daisy-...Elastic Firecracker $5 Love Spit Love-Fall on Tears (1 song promo single) $4 Jason Falkner-Follow Me (4 song promo only) $5 Ocean Colour Scene-Ocean colour scene (1st album on Fontana) $5 Empirion-Advanced Technology (uk import) $6 Wonder Stuff-On the Ropes EP (promo only 4 song) $6 Wonder Stuff-Tour Ep (promo only 4 song) $6 That's it for now. If you think a price is unfair, make an offer. I"m always up for trading...I'm looking for cd or cdr boots of various bands: Slowdive, Radiohead, Cure, Gene, Blur, Adorable, Lush, etc. And I am currently looking for quite a few indie cds by bands like Rocketship, Broadcast, Stereolab, Curtain Society, Love Spirals Downwards, etc. I'm also looking for Swallow-Blow. Thanks. Tim .....I have measured out my life with coffee spoons... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 16:41:21 -0500 From: email@example.com (Luis B. Abcede) Subject: THANKS! Re: MBV-L? Give me info please! Wudup yo, I'd like to give a CRAZY MAD shout out to all my peeps on da list. Thanks for the 411. Still pimpin' in '98, Luis firstname.lastname@example.org heh heh ... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 18:23:47 +0600 From: box-and-whiskers Subject: chapterhouse list? > list admin: Vapour Trail (Ride), Autosleeper (Chapterhouse) i take it there is one now? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:18:41 EDT From: Moonstar9 Subject: Re: old uk indy news In a message dated 98-04-22 14:47:53 EDT, email@example.com writes: << can't forget that phil king from lush is now in the jesus and mary chain! can't forget that phil king was in an amazing band called SEE SEE RIDER on Lazy records (same record co that mbv released all their early records on) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 19:23:18 EDT From: Moonstar9 Subject: Re: chapterhouse list? what is the address to subscribe to the chapterhouse list? Thanks, Jared ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:28:44 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Re: rip slowdive At 15:24 1998-04-21 EDT, Rephlex00 wrote: > and what is the guy doing posting here anyway, surely he isnt so sad to be a > member of this list, IS HE? Yes, you *have* to be a member of the list to be able to post to it. //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:38:59 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Re: rip slowdive > btw... i'm listening to sweet trip now... we've been buzzing about them on > mbv-l and they are just so wondrous. *this* music hits me very very well. > splendide Hmm, do you mean the "Halica. Bliss Out v.11" album by any chance? I just got it today to review, and have listened to it twice so far. Sadly only one song moved me / struck me as guitar-based etheral and ambient - the rest was just ambient period. Perhaps you can convince me - why you think they're so great? //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:42:46 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Re: old uk indy news > the jesus and mary chain are back on creation and have a new single out > called cracking up and it is awesome Agreed! It's totally ... ummm... JAMC retro. ;) I can't wait to see them again this summer! When's the new album out? May was it? //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 01:46:05 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) >> kevin shields from mbv is still sitting on his ass, but he did get out of >> bed to do a primal scream remix and a mogwai remix this year > > Which are both F*CKING AMAZING!!! Kevin Shields also did that remix for > the Pastels and Yo La Tengo a few months back. Didn't Kevin work on the latest and last Dinosaur Jr with Mascis as well? Maybe that was last year so it doesn't count? :) //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 18:59:04 -0600 From: Brad Nicholson Subject: Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) >>> kevin shields from mbv is still sitting on his ass, but he did get out of >>> bed to do a primal scream remix and a mogwai remix this year >> >> Which are both F*CKING AMAZING!!! Kevin Shields also did that remix for >> the Pastels and Yo La Tengo a few months back. > > Didn't Kevin work on the latest and last Dinosaur Jr with Mascis as well? > Maybe that was last year so it doesn't count? :) Don't forget that he also played a few sows with Primal Scream a little while back. brad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 21:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: torsten moeller Subject: Re: old uk indy news (some corrections) According to Mitch: >> kevin shields from mbv is still sitting on his ass, but he did get out of > bed to do a primal scream remix and a mogwai remix this year > > Which are both F*CKING AMAZING!!! Kevin Shields also did that remix for > the Pastels and Yo La Tengo a few months back. I love MBV and YLT, but the Autumn Sweater remix of Mr. Shields was pretty lame, I thought. Maybe it appears that way, cause the mu-ziq remix right after it just ROCKS ;) Torsten. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:57:22 +0000 From: Brian Burgher Subject: Re: big bunghole pentration dearest douchebag, IF YOU ARE SUCH A GOD ALMIGHTY ON MUSIC TELL US WHAT YOU LISTEN TO.THE WAY YOU START YOUR MESSAGE USING BEVIS AND BUTTHEAD QUOTES BRINGS ME TO BELIEVE YOU MIGHT JUST BE AN MTV WARPO.I WONDER COULD IT BE GWAR IS YOUR FAVORITE? MAZZY STARR IS A GREAT BAND BUT TO COMPARE THEM TO MOJAVE 3 IS COMPLETELY STUPID THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT IN STYLE. P.S.GO BEAT YOUR DICK TO THE OASIS BROTHERS WHILE THEY SING ONE OF THE BIG SINGLES THEY HAD. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 22:53:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Lorraine Lelis Subject: Re: rip slowdive ah! how can you not fall in love with the sweet trip cd? well, i suppose it is very electronically based and if you're not into that, then you might not be into the cd. the beats, however, aren't heavy- they're so nicely light and happy. and beyond the beats, the melodies are sooo lovely. which track did you like, erik? my personal favorites are track 3: "follow me"--- the last few minutes have the guy singing one line, and the girl following him identically afterwards, both doused in heavy reverb. that vocal melody is perhaps my favorite on the album. the last song, too, "jelly charm," is so soothing. i suppose i'm into vocal melodies, coz that last song has a really cool vocal rhythm. i don't know how to convince you- this music just makes me so happy. everyone, just give it a listen, please lorraine :D On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Erik Soderstrom wrote: >> btw... i'm listening to sweet trip now... we've been buzzing about them on >> mbv-l and they are just so wondrous. *this* music hits me very very well. >> splendide > > Hmm, do you mean the "Halica. Bliss Out v.11" album by any chance? > I just got it today to review, and have listened to it twice so > far. Sadly only one song moved me / struck me as guitar-based > etheral and ambient - the rest was just ambient period. Perhaps > you can convince me - why you think they're so great? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 23:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: Mitchell Clearfield Subject: Re: old uk indy news Since the subject has been raised... I'd love to hear news about 2 of my favorite old bands: (1) The Wendys - have any of those guys turned up since Factory's demise? (2) New Fast Automatic Daffodils - I thought they had an album coming out about 2 years ago, but then I never saw it... Are they still alive and kicking? Thanks! Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:05:46 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: big bunghole pentration (jerkoff) ok dickhead im probably a bigger fan of both drugstore and mazzy star than you and there are no big similarites between them. give me a break fader, solitary party grover, if, devil, superglider sound nothing like mazzy star or mojave 3 drugstore sound more like the velvet underground with fuzz boxes and a sexy voiced girl singer now for mazzy star they are too dark and brooding to be like mojave 3's gentle country..the only similarity would be the acoustic ands strings now for drugstore and mazzy star they are like saying the pixies sound like the verve or jesus and mary chain sound like the palace brothers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 04:08:45 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: big bunghole pentration as for you coments about retro let people be people if i do recall your screename is spaceman3 and well jason spaceman is retro as for listening to something new check out dj krush dj shadow massive attack alpha but the truth of the matter is that music lives on forever ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 98 08:50:02 UT From: "Lisa Johnson" Subject: Terrastock 2 Another brief review of Terrastock for the benefit of those not in attendance: Well, contrary to the opinions of many a Terrastocker, I thought the event was definitely a mixed bag. First off, the last minute venue relocation to a remote industrial wasteland really complicated the food/drink/travel scenario. Secondly, sudden schedule revisions coupled with the aforementioned relocation resulted in myself (and many others) missing a few early performances in the pursuit of sleep/breakfast; namely Windy & Carl, Elf Power, Alva, and Damon & Naomi. Having seen W/C before and Elf Power (not originally scheduled) earlier in the week, I was only mildly disappointed... but as this was the last concert by D/N with Ghost on their North American tour (and having since listened to a bootleg of their perfomance), I'm doubly bummed! Adding to the irony, their previous show was Thursday night in Seattle, the day I flew to San Francisco FOR Terrastock! Ce la vie! The other major disappointment was the sound, especially the main stage which was engineered by some folks accustomed to hosting raves. As Scott Spillane of the Elephant 6 orchestra so acutely described to me while gazing over the adjacent ship canal swimming with auto parts: "all fuckin' bottom-end bass with piercing highs and no mids!" Achieving a consistent sound is a difficult proposition when 3 dozen bands are performing in an oversized concrete box! But all was not lost... Grimble Grumble and Sub Arachnoid Space were absolute bliss, Neutral Milk and OTC played inspired hi-energy sets (again!), and Ghost with Damon on drums were simply entrancing. The digital projectionists finally sorted out their chaotic layers of material by the final evening for Cul de Sac, who had perhaps the perfect sound mix of the weekend, and managed to prove to the crowd that they can actually perform their intricate material live (unlike previous shows). Also worth the price of admission: NZ's Alistair Galbraith who performed alone with guitar, violin, and droning backing tapes synched from a Walkman! A true genius of our time! The Azuza Plane were a victims of a horrendous sound mix (perhaps by choice?) with a punishing mid-range assault of relentlessly murky delayed/reverbed guitars, and a pounding (but poorly mic'd) drummer sans bass drum! A good show nonetheless by Jason & Co... Finally, Bardo Pond took the stage Sunday eve and cleaned the wax out of everyone's ears with the most intense sonic barrage I've ever encountered (imagine Loveless-era MBV live). Bardo were easily the loudest band at T2 (and that's saying something) even before the PA system was switched on... and what a PA! Imagine a large club room with enough sound equipment for an arena show! After only two songs, the more tender eared fans began scrambling for the exits... I'm not championing unneccesary ear damage, but this was really a revelation for fans of wall of sound guitar noise. Devastating! Unfortunately, the mix was a disaster with Isobel's flute/vox completely lost (as opposed to seductively buried), and Michael Gibbons' mesmerizing guitar leads completely drowned out by his brother Joe's deafening strum, which was occasionally cutting in and out due to a bad connection. Sounds unpromising on paper, yet you could literally feel the rhythm section grinding away with enough low end power to force the very air from your lungs, coupled with a high-end swoosh befitting twin jet engines! And in a most un-Bardo like manner, they managed to keep this amazingly heavy groove going for every song! They played flawlessly throughout their 40 min set, and more than made up for what they lacked in subtlety with raw physical power. When Kevin Shields used to speak of wanting future MBV live shows to be more of a "body thing", this had to be what he was thinking of! Amazing! And to think it was broadcast live on local KFJC (albeit through a bunch of compressor equipment)... I'd love to know what that sounded like. If you can see Bardo Pond live on this tour, by all means go! Don't expect this level of sound at a small club, but if previous shows are any indication, you'll get full exposure to the brothers Gibbons' guitar textures seamlessly weaving and melting together with Isobel's sublime flute playing and submerged vocals. However, I'm not recommending hearing the much-hyped Silver Apples who may be opening for Bardo... be forewarned! FYO: The next Terrastock (not until 2000) is rumored to be planned for multiple venues in Seattle, which should lend itself to sound & stage better tailored to individual performers than a single large venue. And hopefully the crowd will be equally as polite, cordial, and appreciative of the each other and the music, yet a bit less lethargic than those who spent the duration of this past weekend sitting on the venue floor! PS: Grimble Grumble (what sweet people!) are continuing their tour with Windy & Carl (more sweet folks!), as is the always entertaining Elephant 6 orchestra (smiles to Jeremy and Scott)... so keep your eyes open for tour dates and good luck! Cheers, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 03:51:14 PDT From: "Matthew Falconer" Subject: Ponder this... Hi there all you regressive, somnambulistic, depressive, morbid people!!! I was reading an interview with Rachel (from Mojave 3 - know who they are???) and she had this to say about Slowdive and the kind of music they did: INTERVIEWER: Do you ever think you'll return to those wonderful, effect-full guitar works one day? RACHEL: I can't really see that happening, really. We are always keen to experiment. But with new things rather than stuff we've done before. Look to the future, that's what I say... Lets put or hands together for Rachel!!! YAY!!!! Maybe she could try telling that to her fans!!! I doubt they'd listen, though. Too busy laying around in bed or hiding under the stairs afraid of the sunlight and reality and NEW music! I think I'll leave it there for today... Cheers! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 13:20:06 +0100 From: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: chapterhouse list? is there a chapterhouse list? | what is the address to subscribe to the chapterhouse list? Thanks, Jared ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:38:21 -0500 From: Bryan Lunsford Subject: Unidentified subject! This mailing list is some bullshit. I want to be removed. De-subscribed. Maybe I'll get on the a fucking knitting mailinglist, anything would be more enthralling than getting 10 mails a day listening to you people whine. So what some guy talked shit. The purpose of the mailing list is to showcase different opinions. It's some bullshit that your egos are that frail. ps.....I just controlled you. I am the puppetmaster, I made you read this. I just told you what to do and you did it. Thanks for obeying me and reading this, slave. The puppetmaster loves Slowdive. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 08:33:35 -0500 (CDT) From: James W Weber Subject: Re: Ponder this... (your bit about rachel and moving on) New bands eh? I listen to (besides slowdive) mojave 3, starflyer 59, american analog set, low, bedhead, red house painters, grant lee buffalo (new album june 9 -- hot damn!), tortoise, ivy, codeine, innocence mission, the list goes on... why do you assume that because this is a "slowdive" list that all we talk about is slowdive, when in fact, we don't? its like the galaxie 500 list, we never talk about them, just other bands we currently listen to, which is where i heard about most of the aforementioned bands. It's like on irc, ya go to a chat room for said band, and no one wants to talk about said band because they know everything about them already, they want to talk about other interests. i'm not going to respond to you anymore after this, and will, in fact, hit delete on any message from your address as you do not even return the favor (yes favor, as i consider reading your poorly thought out drivel quite taxing) of writing a meaningful response (response, not attack or retort). ta james ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #55 ********************************
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