The Avalyn Digest
Vol.98 #006
January 18th, 1998
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html
Today's Topics:
again...
Re: Blue Day question
Re: Mojave 3 Update
Re: Oslo offer to ...
Slowbox...
Re: Slowbox...
Re: Slowbox...
Re: Slowbox...
re: Slowbox
Re: Mojave 3 cover Mr D
Re: Slowbox...
Re: stingyness and Rachel on this list
RE: Slowbox [mildly pessimistic take]
7% solution
Re: 7% solution
Re: 7% solution
Re: 7% solution
Re: 7% solution
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:19:57 EST
From: Primarygrl
Subject: again...
i don't know how many times this has been posted on this list, but here it
goes again:
LET IT BE RECORDS has a lot of rare slowdive AND my bloody valentine stuff for
sale. you should truly check it out. i got my ep's from there, like
morningrise, slowdive, and outside your room...
they are located on the web, but i don't have the address any longer. if you
cannot find it, let me know, and i will try to find it for you...
primary girl
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 00:25:26 -0500
From: "Ryan"
Subject: Re: Blue Day question
Yes the japanese version of Blue Day has lyrics. It also says a lot of
other stuff, but it's all in japanese so i have no clue what it says.
bye ryan
>> I've got the Souvlaki/Blue Day 2CD, and I always wondered if the
>> regular Blue Day release had liner notes or cool band photos in
>> the sleeve. Was there a lyric sheet included?
>
> Not with the one released in Scandinavia/Benelux at least, but I
> have heard of a Japanese version of it with the lyrics included.
> Someone on the 4AD list mentioned it ... umm, 2 years ago. Nedless
> to say I sent email to the guy asking for more information about
> it - but he never replied.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:11:39 EST
From: Flwr2hide
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 Update
just curious
i heard that mojave 3 was covering a bob dyaln tune on the shave the pavement
tour and was just curious if any one new which it was... i heard it was
absolutely sweet marie but i dont know for sure
steve
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:03:17 +0100
From: "Kurt.Verweire"
Subject: Re: Oslo offer to ...
Gage Crump wrote:
> I'll list them in a priority way:
>
> 1. songs never released commercially (performed only live) : joy/silver
> screen/bleed/??
>
> 2. the flexi songs :take me down/beach song (if they're poor quality now
> they'll be even worse in a couple of years, at least CDs don't degrade
> with time!)
>
> 3. songs from the harder to find e.p.'s which do NOT appear in another
> format (such as on Blue Day or on the end of U.S. version Souvlaki):
> avalyn II, golden hair, catch the breeze (i've heard its an alternate
> version on Holding our Breath)
> (slowdive e.p. and holding our breath are really hard to find,
> morningrise and In Mind Remixes you can find readily, i'm not sure about
> 5ep and outside your room)
>
> 4. good quality live material (e.g. live at oslo - i love that drunk
> norwegian guy)
>
> 5. studio demos (though the disc will probably be full by this point,
> unless we want to make it two discs)
If you can arrange this, I certainly buy a copy (and perhaps some more
of them, as I know some people who don't have an internet connection)
but who like Slowdive very much.
Keep on the good work, guys...
Kurt
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 03:30:05 EST
From: Lull45
Subject: Slowbox...
Hey Spacekids...
OKay here the deal...I heard that Ryko was putting on a Slowdive Boxset...very
hush-hush, and it would be out by april...It would include everything all EPs,
Cd's and even a video(multimedia) it will run for like $60 so, thats the
deal... if i'm wrong...sorry...
Cheers,
Spaceboy1
Ps Rachel is a freakin goddess
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:11:01 +0000
From: "wade@tapehouse.com"
Subject: Re: Slowbox...
That would be amazing if Rykodisc did that. Unfortunately, it sounds
way too good to be true. I just visited the Rykodisc website and saw
nothing, so I e-mailed them an inquery. We'll see what they write
back.
wade
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:04:06 -0600
From: o_o_o
Subject: Re: Slowbox...
This is exactly what happened when the Galaxie 500 box was coming out. For
a while it was all unconfirmed rumor, then tentative maybes from ryko, then
a definite yes, but no firm release date, and then the box came out. I
also emailed Ryko. Everyone on the list should email them
(info@rykodisc.com). The more Ryko hears about it, the more likely they
will go through with it (if the decision hasn't been made yet). I think
they were pleasantly surprised by the demand for the Galaxie 500 box (I
know I was), so maybe Slowdive has a good chance.
At 10:11 AM 1/16/98 +0000, wade@tapehouse.com wrote:
>That would be amazing if Rykodisc did that. Unfortunately, it sounds
>way too good to be true. I just visited the Rykodisc website and saw
>nothing, so I e-mailed them an inquery. We'll see what they write
>back.
>wade
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:30:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Gage Crump
Subject: Re: Slowbox...
that would be great if rykodisc did that, but i still think a rarities CD
would be a good idea regardless, since the really rare and the live songs
would still not be on it (unless they release some sort of Copenhagen-like
thing as well, which would be really great!) -gage
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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:45:30 -0800
From: "Tim Warner"
Subject: re: Slowbox
If this were true, I'd be one happy camper...though I do agree with
Gage...we need that mailing list cd. I, for one, have the Blue Day
cd...I'd love some unreleased and live stuff...
I'm getting excited! I hope these releases happen! I just emailed Ryko
also...lets see what they have to say...
Tim
PS Anyone here heard of 7% Solution? I'd love to get their address to
procure a copy of their cd...
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:24:01 EST
From: ALTONBARNS
Subject: Re: Mojave 3 cover Mr D
In a message dated 16/01/98 07:25:50, you write:
<< i heard that mojave 3 was covering a bob dyaln tune on the shave the
pavement
tour and was just curious if any one new which it was... i heard it was
absolutely sweet marie but i dont know for sure >>
They covered `Oh Sister` by Mr. D on the Mark Radcliffe Radio one session
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 02:52:36 -0800
From: spaceagebachelorpad@usa.net (JJ Moreno)
Subject: Re: Slowbox...
>Hey Spacekids...
>
>OKay here the deal...I heard that Ryko was putting on a Slowdive Boxset...very
>hush-hush, and it would be out by april...It would include everything all EPs,
>Cd's and even a video(multimedia) it will run for like $60 so, thats the
>deal... if i'm wrong...sorry...
But I wonder why it would be so "hush-hush" not that Slowie are the most
unpopular band but I still wouldn't call their stateside notoriety popular
enough to warrant this type of secrecy.
If it indeed is true, which I plan to ask Rhino being that they're in town,
then I'd have my copy ordered days in adavance; as I'm sure we all would
(that goes without saying!). ;)
>Ps Rachel is a freakin goddess
Absolutely!
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:12:24 -0800
From: spaceagebachelorpad@usa.net (JJ Moreno)
Subject: Re: stingyness and Rachel on this list
>> Yeah, but who has all this stuff in the first place.
>
>I have this stuff.
So you have the pigmalion, souvlaki demos which I was referring to? ;)
>
>> The rarities comp thing sounds great if we can do it, but it seems like from
>> the last conversation about it a few months ago that no one thinks they have
>> a copy good enough to burn on a CD or perhaps isn't interested...
>
> I do, and I am interested.
>
>> And another thing, I don't see why Rachel would have a fit when it comes to
>> her supporters trying to distribute (amongst themselves) what little there
>> was of our beloved slowie. How could she find fault w/ the same people who:
>> attend all her concerts, go out of there way to get any imports they can
>> find, and patiently await the next Mojave 3 release?
>
> The reason she and the band got mad the last time was because the
> guy making the compilation CDs were selling them to make money off of
> their work, their souls, their sweat and tears. I don't think you'd
> be too happy if someone copied your work (whatever that may be),
> and sold it to make money off of everything you'd worked for, would
> you?
Indeed I would not, but the analogy you make between the last time this was
brought up (where someone was selling CDs
to make a profit) and this time where financial profit is either minimally
or in no case involved(hopefully) is weak as it seems the circumstances or
motive for the making of the cd are different.
I hope this thing goes through, as I was indeed pleasantly surprised by the
reaction from this list's members.
If there's anyway I can help, such as by submitting a good copy of live
stuff, I would happilly and willingly do.
Many thamks for the offer and reply Chief. :)
>> So if she's reading this, which I doubt, maybe you could find it in your
>> heart to allow us this harmless transaction.
>
> She's a subscriber of the Digest version, and I know she reads
> them from time to time.
>
>> Oh yeah... We love you! OXOXOX
>
> We certainly do. ;)
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 06:00:21 -0600
From: Gary Hendershot
Subject: RE: Slowbox [mildly pessimistic take]
>> OKay here the deal...I heard that Ryko was putting on a Slowdive
>> Boxset...very hush-hush, and it would be out by april...It would
>> include everything all EPs, Cd's and even a video(multimedia) it
>> will run for like $60 so, thats the deal... if i'm wrong...sorry...
-------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> But I wonder why it would be so "hush-hush" not that Slowie are
> the most unpopular band but I still wouldn't call their stateside
> notoriety popular enough to warrant this type of secrecy.
===================================================================
I would be surprised if Ryko was planning on releasing a *BOX* set
of Slowdive music. Could Ryko be in the early stages of
negotiating something with Creation and Slowdive? Has this been
confirmed by Ryko, Creation, or Slowdive/Mojave3, or is this just
another public fantasy?
It would make more *commercial* sense for Ryko to release a
compilation CD of sorts -- which would not include material from
any of the album releases. If you look at Slowdive's complete
release catalogue, you'll notice that most of their best music was
their EP releases. Using this frame of mind, I could see Ryko
wanting to release a compilation consisting of "Blue Day" + certain
EP tracks + unreleased tracks of interesting value (to the producer,
that is) including some live and alternate tracks -- basically,
whatever they could squeeze onto a single 74-to-77 minute CD.
If a box set was to somehow miraculously be released by Ryko, it
would be even more attractive if it had an exclusive CD with some
of the previously unreleased studio tracks and live tracks that
people talk about on this list frequently. I recently bought a CD
released from Ryko of a never-before-released and presumably long
lost album recorded more than 20 years ago by Eno + Cluster + Neu
called Harmonia 76 -- "Tracks & Traces." So, Ryko can indeed
perform miracles!
-Gary H-
ghenders@gary-hendershot.com
Houston, TX USA
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 19:08:47 -0500
From: Justin_Bowers@BAYLOR.EDU
Subject: 7% solution
On Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:45:30 -0800 avalyn@lysator.liu.se wrote:
> PS Anyone here heard of 7% Solution? I'd love to get their address to
> procure a copy of their cd...
7% Solution are genius!!! They play shows in Austin all the time and their
record is readily available from several record shops in and around Austin. A
definite NEED for everyone. I'll see if I can find the address and phone for
Waterloo Records in Austin, TX. They have it for sure.
-=justin=-
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Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:04:34 -0600
From: joroses@mail.utexas.edu (galaxy grave)
Subject: Re: 7% solution
> 7% Solution are genius!!! They play shows in Austin all the time and their
> record is readily available from several record shops in and around Austin.
> A definite NEED for everyone. I'll see if I can find the address and phone
> for Waterloo Records in Austin, TX. They have it for sure.
512-474-2500
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 05:25:16 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: 7% solution
At 19:08 1998-01-17 -0500, Justin_Bowers@BAYLOR.EDU wrote:
> 7% Solution are genius!!! They play shows in Austin all the time and their
> record is readily available from several record shops in and around
> Austin. A definite NEED for everyone. I'll see if I can find the address
> and phone for Waterloo Records in Austin, TX. They have it for sure.
As usual (on this list) listie recommendations are worth checking out,
so I ran a web search for the band, hoping to find some sound files
somewhere, or at least a homepage, but no. No sound files and no homepage.
I did find a review (sort of) from a Texas paper:
"7% Solution
The Austin band's first CD, "All About Satellites and Spaceships," includes
an extra bonus disc with the admonition, "please give this to a friend."
Someone did (hello, Michelle Ferguson!), and now it's in this column.
While 7% Solution's shoegazing tendencies are pretty strong (as Julian
Cope says, "spacerock with me!"), and the record is pretty long, "All About
Satellites and Spaceships" has both the songs and sonic fireworks to pull
off the trippy/poppy/atmospheric thing."
Anyone have a sound file or a related URL?
//Erik
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 05:28:26 +0100
From: Erik Soderstrom
Subject: Re: 7% solution
At 19:08 1998-01-17 -0500, Justin_Bowers@BAYLOR.EDU wrote:
> 7% Solution are genius!!! They play shows in Austin all the time and their
> record is readily available from several record shops in and around
> Austin. A definite NEED for everyone. I'll see if I can find the address
> and phone for Waterloo Records in Austin, TX. They have it for sure.
Umm, I found a mailorder place that has the CD for $10 -
http://www.nd.org/ttcd.html
//Erik
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Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 02:30:56 EST
From: Flwr2hide
Subject: Re: 7% solution
you people should really check out the autumns, wonderful band, very etherpop
(ala slowdive/cocteau twins) but the vocals are more like redhousepainters
meet house of love at a radiohead show. beautiful singing and swirly guitars
but not a knock off band like some.
suicide at strell park ep (risk)
the angel pool (risk)
steve
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