From archive (archive) Subject: Doc Savage Index (Jayembee, eat yer heart out:*) Keywords: LOOOOONG From: djo@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA Date: 6 Jul 89 00:06:52 GMT In the grand Usenet tradition of providing vast quantities of useless information that you can't possibly live without... ...here are, not one, but *three* versions of an index to all the "Doc Savage" books. A word of explanation is in order. If you aren't familiar with Doc Savage, this information probably won't interest you and you can hit "N" at the to get away from all this stuff. If you're still here but don't understand about Doc, let me explain: he was probably the best of the pulp-adventure heroes of the '30s and '40s; he appeared in (according to Farmer's count) 181 adventures in his own pulp magazine over a period of 16 years. His aides included "Ham," "Monk," "Johnny," "Renny," and "Long Tom," who appeared from the beginning. Later, Ham and Monk took pets, a pig named Habeas Corpus and an ape named Chemistry; also, Doc's cousin Patricia Savage appeared in a number of adventures. All but Ham and Monk faded out before the series ended. The first version lists the books in the order in which they were originally published by Street and Smith, in the DOC SAVAGE magazine. The second lists them in the order they have been reprinted in by Bantam Books. The third lists them in alphabetical order by title. (There is actually a fourth "canonical" order, that being the order Philip Jose Farmer worked out for the stories "actually" happening.) I have listed them by original title except in the alphabetical listing. Most columns of the indices are fairly self-explanatory; only the "Comments" column requires any explanation. F = "Fictional" This refers to Philip Jose Farmer's "Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life," which goes on the premise that "Doc" was a real person. Farmer worked out a detailed chronology of Doc's adventures, in which he determined that certain adventures simply could *not* have happened. If you don't get the joke just let it go by. ND = Norman Danberg AH = Alan Hathway WB = William Bogart These are writers. The vast majority of the Doc Savage books were written by Doc's creator, Lester Dent. Those written by other writers are marked in this manner. O# = Doc Savage Omnibus # In recent years, Bantam has begun reprinting the remaining Doc Savage adventures in "omnibus" editions of four or five stories apiece. These are not given individual numbers; I've taken the liberty of assigning numbers to them. E = Eric owns D = Dan'l owns Ignore these. They're there because this index grew out of a checklist for myself and a friend who also collects this garbage. NOTE: This is *not* a plea to help us fill in our collections. Of course, if you have some of these that you're willing to let go cheap, let us know:*) ??? This appears not in the Comments column, but in the "Bantam Number" column for those books Bantam has not yet reprinted. It is also in the "Date" column for two books: The Red Spider -- this is a late "Doc" novel that Lester Dent wrote but Street and Smith never reprinted. The Hate Genius -- The provenance of this one is totally unknown to me. It may be a retitling of one of the original adventures; or it may be a new one. (I've heard one rumor that Philip Jose Farmer wrote one adventure; perhaps this is it.) If anyone out there has a copy and can let me know what appears on the copyright page, I'd be grateful. Okay, here goes. Don't say you weren't warned... The Barely Bearable Bibliographer-Roach date(mm/yy) title Bantam # comments 3/33 Man of Bronze, The 1 ED 4/33 Land of Terror, The 8 ED 5/33 Quest of the Spider 68 ED 6/33 Polar Treasure, The 4 ED 7/33 Pirate of the Pacific 19 E 8/33 Red Skull, The 17 E 9/33 Lost Oasis, The 6 ED 10/33 Sargasso Ogre, The 18 ED 11/33 Czar of Fear, The 22 ED 12/33 Phantom City, The 10 ED, intro. Habeas 1/34 Brand of the Werewolf 5 ED, intro. Pat 2/34 Man Who Shook the Earth, The 43 D 3/34 Meteor Menace 3 ED 4/34 Monsters, The 7 ED,F 5/34 Mystery on the Snow, The 69 E 6/34 King Maker, The 80 D 7/34 Thousand-Headed Man, The 2 ED 8/34 Squeaking Goblin, The 35 ED 9/34 Fear Cay 11 ED 10/34 Death in Silver 26 D 11/34 Sea Magician, The 44 D 12/34 Annihilist, The 31 1/35 Mystic Mullah, The 9 ED 2/35 Red Snow 38 D 3/35 Land of Always-Night 13 ED,F 4/35 Spook Legion, The 16 D 5/35 Secret in the Sky, The 20 E 6/35 Roar Devil, The 88 7/35 Quest of Qui 12 ED 8/35 Spook Hole 80 D 9/35 Majii, The 60 D 10/35 Dust of Death 32 D, intro Chemistry 11/35 Murder Melody 15 ED, ND 12/35 Fantastic Island, The 14 E 1/36 Murder Mirage 71 D, ND 2/36 Mystery Under the Sea 27 D 3/36 Metal Master, The 72 ED 4/36 Men Who Smiled No More, The 45 D, ND 5/36 Seven Agate Devils, The 73 ED 6/36 Haunted Ocean, The 51 ND 7/36 Black Spot, The 76 D, ND 8/36 Midas Man, The 46 ED 9/36 Cold Death 21 ED, ND 10/36 South Pole Terror 77 11/36 Resurrection Day 36 E 12/36 Vanisher, The 52 ED 1/37 Land of Long Juju 47 F, ND 2/37 Derrick Devil, The 74 D 3/37 Mental Wizard 53 4/37 Terror in the Navy, The 34 5/37 Mad Eyes 33 ND 6/37 Land of Fear, The 75 D 7/37 He Could Stop the World 54 ND 8/37 Ost (The Magic Island) 89 D 9/37 Feathered Octopus, The 48 D 10/37 Repel (The Deadly Dwarf) 28 ED 11/37 Sea Angel, The 49 D 12/37 Golden Peril, The 55 1/38 Living-Fire Menace, The 61 D 2/38 Mountain Monster, The 84 D 3/38 Devil on the Moon 50 4/38 Pirate's Ghost, The 62 5/38 Motion Menace, The 64 D 6/38 Submarine Mystery, The 63 7/38 Giggling Ghosts, The 56 8/38 Munitions Master, The 58 D 9/38 Red Terrors, The 83 F 10/38 Fortress of Solitude 23 ED, John Sunlight 11/38 Green Death, The 65 D 12/38 Devil Genghis, The 79 D, John Sunlight 1/39 Mad Mesa 66 2/39 Yellow Cloud, The 59 D 3/39 Freckled Shark, The 67 D 4/39 World's Fair Goblin 39 D, F 5/39 Gold Ogre, The 42 6/39 Flaming Falcons, The 30 D 7/39 Merchants of Disaster 41 8/39 Crimson Serpent, The 78 D 9/39 Poison Island 57 D 10/39 Stone Man, The 81 D 11/39 Hex 37 12/39 Dagger in the Sky, The 40 D 1/40 Other World, The 29 D 2/40 Angry Ghost, The 86 D 3/40 Spotted Men, The 87 D 4/40 Evil Gnome, The 82 5/40 Boss of Terror, The 85 D 6/40 Awful Egg, The 92 D 7/40 Flying Goblin, The 90 D 8/40 Tunnel Terror 93 9/40 Purple Dragon, The 91 10/40 Devils of the Deep ??? 11/40 Awful Dynasty, The 148 O6, D 12/40 Men Vanished, The 152 O7 1/41 Devil's Playground, The 25 D, AH 2/41 Bequest of Evil ??? 3/41 All-White Elf, The 127 O1, D 4/41 Golden Man, The 117 5/41 Pink Lady, The 157 O8, D 6/41 Headless Man, The 124 AH 7/41 Green Eagle, The 24 D 8/41 Mystery Island 139 O4, D 9/41 Mindless Monsters, The 131 O2, D, AH 10/41 Birds of Death 161 O9, D 11/41 Invisible Box Monsters, The 160 O9, D 12/41 Peril in the North 118 D 1/42 Rustling Death, The 132 O2, D, AH 2/42 Men of Fear 140 O4, D 3/42 The Too-Wise Owl ??? 4/42 Magic Forest, The 151 O6, D 5/42 Pirate Isle ??? 6/42 Speaking Stone, The 116 7/42 Man Who Fell Up, The 112 8/42 Three Wild Men, The 121 9/42 Fiery Menace, The 122 10/42 Laugh of Death, The 119 11/42 They Died Twice 105 last Chemistry 12/42 Devil's Black Rock, The ??? last Habeas 1/43 Time Terror, The 102 2/43 Waves of Death ??? 3/43 Black, Black Witch, The 108 4/43 King of Terror, The 120 5/43 Talking Devil, The 113 D 6/43 Running Skeletons, The 128 O1, D 7/43 Mystery on Happy Bones 96 8/43 Mental Monster 156 O8, D 9/43 Hell Below 99 10/43 Goblins, The 125 D 11/43 Secret of the Su, The 126 D 12/43 Spook of Grandpa Eben 135 O3, D 1/44 Accdg 2 Plan of 1Eyed Mystic 111 2/44 Death Had Yellow Eyes 110 3/44 Derelict of Skull Shoal, The ??? 4/44 Whisker of Hercules, The 103 D 5/44 Three Devils, The 137 O3, D 6/44 Pharaoh's Ghost, The 101 7/44 Man Who Was Scared, The 104 8/44 Shape of Terror, The 109 9/44 Weird Valley 158 O8, D 10/44 Jiu San 107 11/44 Satan Black 97 12/44 Lost Giant, The 100 1/45 Violent Night ??? 2/45 Strange Fish 138 O3, D 3/45 Ten Ton Snakes, The 114 D 4/45 Cargo Unknown 98 5/45 Rock Sinister 141 O4, D 6/45 Terrible Stork, The 154 O7 7/45 King Joe Cay 133 O2, D 8/45 Wee Ones, The 162 O9, D 9/45 Terror Takes 7 163 O9, D 10/45 Thing That Pursued, The 134 O2, D 11/45 Trouble on Parade 159 O8, D 12/45 Screaming Man, The 106 D 1/46 Measures for a Coffin 136 O3, D 2/46 Se-Pah-Poo ??? 3/46 Terror and the Lonely Widow ??? 4/46 Five Fathoms Dead 154 O7 5/46 Death Is a Round Black Spot ??? 6/46 Colors for Murder ??? 7/46 Fire and Ice 150 O6, D 8/46 Three Times a Corpse ??? 9/46 Exploding Lake, The ??? 10/46 Death in Little Houses ??? 11/46 Devil Is Jones, The ??? last Johnny 12/46 Disappearing Lady, The 149 O6, D, WB 1/46 Target for Death ??? WB 2/47 Death Lady, The ??? WB 3/47 Danger Lies East 155 O7 5/47 No Light to Die By 143 O5, D 7/47 Monkey Suit, The 144 O5, D 9/47 Let's Kill Ames 145 O5, D 11/47 Once Over Lightly 146 O5, D 1/48 I Died Yesterday 147 O5, D, last Pat 3/48 Pure Evil, The 142 O4, D, last Renny 5/48 Terror Wears No Shoes ??? last Long Tom 7/48 Angry Canary, The 129 O1, D 9/48 Swooning Lady, The 130 O1, D Winter '49 Green Master, The ??? Spring '49 Return from Cormoral ??? Summer '49 Up from Earth's Center ??? ??? Hate Genius, The 94 ??? Red Spider, The 95, D Bantam Issue Number Date Title Comments 1 3/33 Man of Bronze, The 2 7/34 Thousand-Headed Man, The 3 3/34 Meteor Menace 4 6/33 Polar Treasure, The 5 1/34 Brand of the Werewolf intro. Pat 6 9/33 Lost Oasis, The 7 4/34 Monsters, The F 8 4/33 Land of Terror, The 9 1/35 Mystic Mullah, The 10 12/33 Phantom City, The intro. Habeas 11 9/34 Fear Cay 12 7/35 Quest of Qui 13 3/35 Land of Always-Night F 14 12/35 Fantastic Island, The 15 11/35 Murder Melody ND 16 4/35 Spook Legion, The 17 8/33 Red Skull, The 18 10/33 Sargasso Ogre, The 19 7/33 Pirate of the Pacific 20 5/35 Secret in the Sky, The 21 9/36 Cold Death ND 22 11/33 Czar of Fear, The 23 10/38 Fortress of Solitude John Sunlight 24 7/41 Green Eagle, The 25 1/41 Devil's Playground, The AH 26 10/34 Death in Silver 27 2/36 Mystery Under the Sea 28 10/37 Repel (The Deadly Dwarf) 29 1/40 Other World, The 30 6/39 Flaming Falcons, The 31 12/34 Annihilist, The 32 10/35 Dust of Death intro Chemistry 33 5/37 Mad Eyes ND 34 4/37 Terror in the Navy, The 35 8/34 Squeaking Goblin, The 36 11/36 Resurrection Day 37 11/39 Hex 38 2/35 Red Snow 39 4/39 World's Fair Goblin F 40 12/39 Dagger in the Sky, The 41 7/39 Merchants of Disaster 42 5/39 Gold Ogre, The 43 2/34 Man Who Shook the Earth, The 44 11/34 Sea Magician, The 45 4/36 Men Who Smiled No More, The ND 46 8/36 Midas Man, The 47 1/37 Land of Long Juju F, ND 48 9/37 Feathered Octopus, The 49 11/37 Sea Angel, The 50 3/38 Devil on the Moon 51 6/36 Haunted Ocean, The ND 52 12/36 Vanisher, The 53 3/37 Mental Wizard 54 7/37 He Could Stop the World ND 55 12/37 Golden Peril, The 56 7/38 Giggling Ghosts, The 57 9/39 Poison Island 58 8/38 Munitions Master, The 59 2/39 Yellow Cloud, The 60 9/35 Majii, The 61 1/38 Living-Fire Menace, The 62 4/38 Pirate's Ghost, The 63 6/38 Submarine Mystery, The 64 5/38 Motion Menace, The 65 11/38 Green Death, The 66 1/39 Mad Mesa 67 3/39 Freckled Shark, The 68 5/33 Quest of the Spider 69 5/34 Mystery on the Snow, The 70 8/35 Spook Hole 71 1/36 Murder Mirage ND 72 3/36 Metal Master, The 73 5/36 Seven Agate Devils, The 74 2/37 Derrick Devil, The 75 6/37 Land of Fear, The 76 7/36 Black Spot, The ND 77 10/36 South Pole Terror 78 8/39 Crimson Serpent, The 79 12/38 Devil Genghis, The John Sunlight 80 6/34 King Maker, The 81 10/39 Stone Man, The 82 4/40 Evil Gnome, The 83 9/38 Red Terrors, The F 84 2/38 Mountain Monster, The 85 5/40 Boss of Terror, The 86 2/40 Angry Ghost, The 87 3/40 Spotted Men, The 88 6/35 Roar Devil, The 89 8/37 Ost (The Magic Island) 90 7/40 Flying Goblin, The 91 9/40 Purple Dragon, The 92 6/40 Awful Egg, The 93 8/40 Tunnel Terror 94 ??? Hate Genius, The 95 ??? Red Spider, The 96 7/43 Mystery on Happy Bones 97 11/44 Satan Black 98 4/45 Cargo Unknown 99 9/43 Hell Below 100 12/44 Lost Giant, The 101 6/44 Pharaoh's Ghost, The 102 1/43 Time Terror, The 103 4/44 Whisker of Hercules, The 104 7/44 Man Who Was Scared, The 105 11/42 They Died Twice last Chemistry 106 12/45 Screaming Man, The 107 10/44 Jiu San 108 3/43 Black, Black Witch, The 109 8/44 Shape of Terror, The 110 2/44 Death Had Yellow Eyes 111 1/44 Accdg 2 Plan of 1Eyed Mystic 112 7/42 Man Who Fell Up, The 113 5/43 Talking Devil, The 114 3/45 Ten Ton Snakes, The 115 5/42 Pirate Isle 116 6/42 Speaking Stone, The 117 4/41 Golden Man, The 118 12/41 Peril in the North 119 10/42 Laugh of Death, The 120 4/43 King of Terror, The 121 8/42 Three Wild Men, The 122 9/42 Fiery Menace, The 123 10/40 Devils of the Deep 124 6/41 Headless Man, The AH 125 10/43 Goblins, The 126 11/43 Secret of the Su, The 127 3/41 All-White Elf, The O1 128 6/43 Running Skeletons, The O1 129 7/48 Angry Canary, The O1 130 9/48 Swooning Lady, The O1 131 9/41 Mindless Monsters, The O2, AH 132 1/42 Rustling Death, The O2, AH 133 7/45 King Joe Cay O2 134 10/45 Thing That Pursued, The O2 135 12/43 Spook of Grandpa Eben O3 136 1/46 Measures for a Coffin O3 137 5/44 Three Devils, The O3 138 2/45 Strange Fish O3 139 8/41 Mystery Island O4 140 2/42 Men of Fear O4 141 5/45 Rock Sinister O4 142 3/48 Pure Evil, The O4, last Renny 143 5/47 No Light to Die By O5 144 7/47 Monkey Suit, The O5 145 9/47 Let's Kill Ames O5 146 11/47 Once Over Lightly O5 147 1/48 I Died Yesterday O5, last Pat 148 11/40 Awful Dynasty, The O6 149 12/46 Disappearing Lady, The O6, WB 150 7/46 Fire and Ice O6 151 4/42 Magic Forest, The O6 152 12/40 Men Vanished, The O7 154 4/46 Five Fathoms Dead O7 154 6/45 Terrible Stork, The O7 155 3/47 Danger Lies East O7 156 8/43 Mental Monster O8 157 5/41 Pink Lady, The O8 158 9/44 Weird Valley O8 159 11/45 Trouble on Parade O8 160 11/41 Invisible Box Monsters, The O9 161 10/41 Birds of Death O9 162 8/45 Wee Ones, The O9 163 9/45 Terror Takes 7 O9 ??? 2/41 Bequest of Evil ??? 3/42 The Too-Wise Owl ??? 2/43 Waves of Death ??? 12/42 Devil's Black Rock, The last Habeas ??? 3/44 Derelict of Skull Shoal, The ??? 1/45 Violent Night ??? 1/46 Target for Death WB ??? 2/46 Se-Pah-Poo ??? 3/46 Terror and the Lonely Widow ??? 5/46 Death Is a Round Black Spot ??? 6/46 Colors for Murder ??? 8/46 Three Times a Corpse ??? 9/46 Exploding Lake, The ??? 10/46 Death in Little Houses ??? 11/46 Devil Is Jones, The last Johnny ??? 2/47 Death Lady, The WB ??? 5/48 Terror Wears No Shoes last Long Tom ??? Winter '49 Green Master, The ??? Spring '49 Return from Cormoral ??? Summer '49 Up from Earth's Center Issue Bantam Title Date Number Comments Accdg 2 Plan of 1Eyed Mystic 1/44 111 All-White Elf, The 3/41 127 O1 Angry Canary, The 7/48 129 O1 Angry Ghost, The 2/40 86 Annihilist, The 12/34 31 Awful Dynasty, The 11/40 148 O6 Awful Egg, The 6/40 92 Bequest of Evil 2/41 ??? Birds of Death 10/41 161 O9 Black Spot, The 7/36 76 ND Black, Black Witch, The 3/43 108 Boss of Terror, The 5/40 85 Brand of the Werewolf 1/34 5 intro. Pat Cargo Unknown 4/45 98 Cold Death 9/36 21 ND Colors for Murder 6/46 ??? Crimson Serpent, The 8/39 78 Czar of Fear, The 11/33 22 Dagger in the Sky, The 12/39 40 Danger Lies East 3/47 155 O7 Deadly Dwarf, The (org. REPEL)10/37 28 Death Had Yellow Eyes 2/44 110 Death in Little Houses 10/46 ??? Death in Silver 10/34 26 Death Is a Round Black Spot 5/46 ??? Death Lady, The 2/47 ??? WB Derelict of Skull Shoal, The 3/44 ??? Derrick Devil, The 2/37 74 Devil Genghis, The 12/38 79 John Sunlight Devil Is Jones, The 11/46 ??? last Johnny Devil on the Moon 3/38 50 Devil's Black Rock, The 12/42 ??? last Habeas Devil's Playground, The 1/41 25 AH Devils of the Deep 10/40 123 Disappearing Lady, The 12/46 149 O6, WB Dust of Death 10/35 32 intro Chemistry Evil Gnome, The 4/40 82 Exploding Lake, The 9/46 ??? Fantastic Island, The 12/35 14 Fear Cay 9/34 11 Feathered Octopus, The 9/37 48 Fiery Menace, The 9/42 122 Fire and Ice 7/46 150 O6 Five Fathoms Dead 4/46 154 O7 Flaming Falcons, The 6/39 30 Flying Goblin, The 7/40 90 Fortress of Solitude 10/38 23 John Sunlight Freckled Shark, The 3/39 67 Giggling Ghosts, The 7/38 56 Goblins, The 10/43 125 Gold Ogre, The 5/39 42 Golden Man, The 4/41 117 Golden Peril, The 12/37 55 Green Death, The 11/38 65 Green Eagle, The 7/41 24 Green Master, The Winter '49 ??? Hate Genius, The ??? 94 Haunted Ocean, The 6/36 51 ND He Could Stop the World 7/37 54 ND Headless Man, The 6/41 124 AH Hell Below 9/43 99 Hex 11/39 37 I Died Yesterday 1/48 147 O5, last Pat Invisible Box Monsters, The 11/41 160 O9 Jiu San 10/44 107 King Joe Cay 7/45 133 O2 King Maker, The 6/34 80 King of Terror, The 4/43 120 Land of Always-Night 3/35 13 F Land of Fear, The 6/37 75 Land of Long Juju 1/37 47 F, ND Land of Terror, The 4/33 8 Laugh of Death, The 10/42 119 Let's Kill Ames 9/47 145 O5 Living-Fire Menace, The 1/38 61 Lost Giant, The 12/44 100 Lost Oasis, The 9/33 6 Mad Eyes 5/37 33 ND Mad Mesa 1/39 66 Magic Forest, The 4/42 151 O6 The Magic Island (orig. OST) 8/37 89 Majii, The 9/35 60 Man of Bronze, The 3/33 1 Man Who Fell Up, The 7/42 112 Man Who Shook the Earth, The 2/34 43 Man Who Was Scared, The 7/44 104 Measures for a Coffin 1/46 136 O3 Men of Fear 2/42 140 O4 Men Vanished, The 12/40 152 O7 Men Who Smiled No More, The 4/36 45 ND Mental Monster 8/43 156 O8 Mental Wizard 3/37 53 Merchants of Disaster 7/39 41 Metal Master, The 3/36 72 Meteor Menace 3/34 3 Midas Man, The 8/36 46 Mindless Monsters, The 9/41 131 O2, AH Monkey Suit, The 7/47 144 O5 Monsters, The 4/34 7 F Motion Menace, The 5/38 64 Mountain Monster, The 2/38 84 Munitions Master, The 8/38 58 Murder Melody 11/35 15 ND Murder Mirage 1/36 71 ND Mystery Island 8/41 139 O4 Mystery on Happy Bones 7/43 96 Mystery on the Snow, The 5/34 69 Mystery Under the Sea 2/36 27 Mystic Mullah, The 1/35 9 No Light to Die By 5/47 143 O5 Once Over Lightly 11/47 146 O5 Other World, The 1/40 29 Peril in the North 12/41 118 Phantom City, The 12/33 10 intro. Habeas Pharaoh's Ghost, The 6/44 101 Pink Lady, The 5/41 157 O8 Pirate Isle 5/42 115 Pirate of the Pacific 7/33 19 Pirate's Ghost, The 4/38 62 Poison Island 9/39 57 Polar Treasure, The 6/33 4 Pure Evil, The 3/48 142 O4, last Renny Purple Dragon, The 9/40 91 Quest of Qui 7/35 12 Quest of the Spider 5/33 68 Red Skull, The 8/33 17 Red Snow 2/35 38 Red Spider, The ??? 95 Red Terrors, The 9/38 83 F Resurrection Day 11/36 36 Return from Cormoral Spring '49 ??? Roar Devil, The 6/35 88 Rock Sinister 5/45 141 O4 Running Skeletons, The 6/43 128 O1 Rustling Death, The 1/42 132 O2, AH Sargasso Ogre, The 10/33 18 Satan Black 11/44 97 Screaming Man, The 12/45 106 Se-Pah-Poo 2/46 ??? Sea Angel, The 11/37 49 Sea Magician, The 11/34 44 Secret in the Sky, The 5/35 20 Secret of the Su, The 11/43 126 Seven Agate Devils, The 5/36 73 Shape of Terror, The 8/44 109 South Pole Terror 10/36 77 Speaking Stone, The 6/42 116 Spook Hole 8/35 80 Spook Legion, The 4/35 16 Spook of Grandpa Eben 12/43 135 O3 Spotted Men, The 3/40 87 Squeaking Goblin, The 8/34 35 Stone Man, The 10/39 81 Strange Fish 2/45 138 O3 Submarine Mystery, The 6/38 63 Swooning Lady, The 9/48 130 O1 Talking Devil, The 5/43 113 Target for Death 1/46 ??? WB Ten Ton Snakes, The 3/45 114 Terrible Stork, The 6/45 154 O7 Terror and the Lonely Widow 3/46 ??? Terror in the Navy, The 4/37 34 Terror Takes 7 9/45 163 O9 Terror Wears No Shoes 5/48 ??? last Long Tom The Too-Wise Owl 3/42 ??? They Died Twice 11/42 105 last Chemistry Thing That Pursued, The 10/45 134 O2 Thousand-Headed Man, The 7/34 2 Three Devils, The 5/44 137 O3 Three Times a Corpse 8/46 ??? Three Wild Men, The 8/42 121 Time Terror, The 1/43 102 Trouble on Parade 11/45 159 O8 Tunnel Terror 8/40 93 Up from Earth's Center Summer '49 ??? Vanisher, The 12/36 52 Violent Night 1/45 ??? Waves of Death 2/43 ??? Wee Ones, The 8/45 162 O9 Weird Valley 9/44 158 O8 Whisker of Hercules, The 4/44 103 World's Fair Goblin 4/39 39 F Yellow Cloud, The 2/39 59 From archive (archive) Subject: Re: Doc Savage Index (Jayembee, eat yer heart out:*) From: chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742 Date: 8 Jul 89 22:07:40 GMT In article <1476@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> djo@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) writes: >ND = Norman Danberg >AH = Alan Hathway >WB = William Bogart > These are writers. The vast majority of the Doc Savage books > were written by Doc's creator, Lester Dent. Those written by > other writers are marked in this manner. Most of the stores NOT by Dent are terrible. (Some of Dent's are not so good either, but he tends not to make stupid mistakes. ND and AH both seemed to know nothing about science.) If you are not crazy like us, and only want to read the good ones, stay away from these---in fact, the best ones are generally those from 1941 on. There are only two of the bad AH novels here (/The Headless Man/ and /The Mindless Monsters/). The other two AH novels are passable. Of the three by Bogart, only one has as yet been reprinted, /The Disappearing Lady/ (in Omnibus #6). This is more of a straight detective story than most Doc novels, and not badly written. It `felt odd' but is not ridiculous like (e.g.) /Murder Melody/ or /Cold Death/. (What seems strange to me is /The Munitions Master/, which reads like a Danberg story, but is not so marked in Farmer's list, and likewise for /World's Fair Goblin/.) > The Hate Genius -- The provenance of this one is > totally unknown to me. It may be a retitling of > one of the original adventures .... It is. Bantam #94, June 1979; on the copyright page it says `Originally appeared in /Doc Savage Magazine/ January 1945 as /Violent Night/'. (/.../ represents italics, here actually Roman since this material is set in italics itself---this is like \em in LaTeX.) I can fill in a few of these: >10/40 Devils of the Deep ??? 123 > 5/42 Pirate Isle ??? 115 > 1/45 Violent Night ??? 94 (as mentioned above) The rest have not yet been reprinted. (And---arrrh---we have to wait four months for the next Omnibus, and five Omnibison to go! 20 months until my collection will be complete! Ai! [Now where did I put that Elven patience? . . .]) -- In-Real-Life: Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 7163) Domain: chris@mimsy.umd.edu Path: uunet!mimsy!chris From archive (archive) Subject: Re: Doc Savage Index (Jayembee, eat yer heart out:*) From: boyajian@ruby.dec.com (Canis Nervous Rex) Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Date: 10 Jul 89 06:00:03 GMT In article <18458@mimsy.UUCP>, chris@mimsy.UUCP (Chris Torek) writes... } Most of the stores NOT by Dent are terrible. I'm afraid that you're operating from the assumption that the generally accepted list of who wrote what is correct. It isn't. I've already been in touch with Dan'l about this by mail. Some research done by Doc expert Will Murray in the early to mid-70's has determined that things are not as they seem. The accepted list of ghost-writers came from the payment records of Street & Smith, but Murray also consulted Dent's papers, which revealed that he sub-contracted novels out to other writers. One was Ryerson Johnson, who, incidentally, is the only one of the DS writers still alive. He had his hand in three novels. A second was Harold David, who wrote eleven of them, and William Bogart wrote nine of them for Dent in addition to the three that Street & Smith commissioned directly, and thus have always been attributed to him. Lastly, the stories attributed to Norman Daniels/Danberg (his real name was Danenberg) were actually by Laurence Donovan. It had been believed for a long time that Donovan was a pen name if Danenberg's, but it isn't so. There *is* a suspicion that he might have had something to do with DEVIL ON THE MOON, since the exact same plot was used for a novel, MOON EXPRESS, that Daniels wrote in the late 60's, based on the tv show THE AVENGERS. } ...in fact, the best ones are generally those from 1941 on. Gee, I thought the series in general started into a gradual decline about then. } Of the three by Bogart, only one has as yet been reprinted, /The } Disappearing Lady/ (in Omnibus #6). This is more of a straight } detective story than most Doc novels, and not badly written. Actually, the series as a whole changed around this time (1946), due to the editor, Babette Rosmond, who was never really fond of the series. Among other things, for a short period around this time, the Doc novels were stuck in the back of the magazine, rather than being the lead feature! Secondly, she tried to make it (and THE SHADOW) less "pulpy" by switching the format to digest-size and retitling it DOC SAVAGE, SCIENCE DETECTIVE, and giving it more of a straight mystery feel. The really strange thing was that she tried to get John D. MacDonald (yes, *that* John D. MacDonald) to write Doc novels, but he declined. } It `felt odd' but is not ridiculous like (e.g.) /Murder Melody/ or } /Cold Death/. I liked both of these, especially MURDER MELODY. They were, imho, quite imaginative, if nothing else. } (What seems strange to me is /The Munitions Master/, which reads like } a Danberg story, but is not so marked in Farmer's list, and likewise } for /World's Fair Goblin/.) THE MUNITIONS MASTER is one of the Harold Davis ghosted novels, and WORLD'S FAIR GOBLIN is one of the "hidden" Bogart's. Ah, the hell with it. While I'm here, I might as well list who wrote what: Laurence Donovan: The same 9 previously attributed to Norman Daniels. Alan Hathaway: The same 4 previously attributed to him. Ryerson Johnson: (1) LAND OF ALWAYS-NIGHT, (2) THE FANTASTIC ISLAND, (3) THE MOTION MENACE. Harold Davis: (1) THE MENTAL WIZARD, (2) THE LAND OF FEAR, (3) THE GOLDEN PERIL, (4) THE LIVING FIRE MENACE, (5) THE MOUNTAIN MONSTER, (6) THE MUNITIONS MASTER, (7) THE GREEN DEATH, (8) MERCHANTS OF DISASTER, (9) THE CRIMSON SERPENT, (10) THE PURPLE DRAGON, (11) DEVILS OF THE DEEP. William Bogart: The 3 previously attributed to him, plus: (1) WORLD'S FAIR GOBLIN, (2) HEX, (3) THE ANGRY GHOST, (4) THE SPOTTED MEN, (5) THE FLYING GOBLIN, (6) TUNNEL TERROR, (7) THE AWFUL DYNASTY, (8) BEQUEST OF EVIL, (9) THE MAGIC FOREST, (10) FIRE AND ICE, and (11) DEATH IN LITTLE HOUSES. Of the ones that Dent subcontracted out to others, there are times when he conceived the plot and had the other write them, times when they wrote them totally by themselves, and times when Dent touched-up or heavily revised their manuscripts. In one case (Johnson's THE MOTION MENACE), he kept only the basic idea and the title, and re-wrote it from scratch. "I know you. You are Cherokee." "I'm an old fool. *You* are Cherokee." "No, I am lift attendant now. I get paycheck, I eat hotdog. I go up and down." --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA) UUCP: ...!decwrl!ruby.dec.com!boyajian or asabet.dec.com ARPA: boyajian%ruby.DEC@DECWRL.DEC.COM or asabet.DEC