The Charlatans Digest Vol.2 Issue #06 [Q] [The Charlatans]

Digest

Vol.2 Issue #06

March 31st, 1996


There are 53 messages totalling 1401 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. This is a Charlies list, not an internet tutorial.
  2. I didn't realise
  3. THIS IS A MAILING LIST (4)
  4. FIND THE 'ROSES MAILING LIST, MONKEY BOY.
  5. Kid? (2)
  6. roses (4)
  7. mailing list
  8. Stone Roses?? (2)
  9. HEISEI, DO YOU HAVE SECOND COMING?
 10. promo luck
 11. COBBLERS
 12. esposos
 13. BLOW IT OUT YOUR ARSE
 14. Personal Mail
 15. Temporary shutdown of mailinglist. (3)
 16. Smile (2)
 17. welcome back everyone!!!!!!!! (2)
 18. singles (4)
 19. up to our hips box
 20. Band Results (5)
 21. Laxton
 22. your mail
 23. Trance Europe Express 4
 24. superspectacular11th! (2)
 25. new subscriber (4)
 26. WANT TO GET OFF LIST (2)
 27. back again and britain news
 28. let's chat
 29. Charlatans fans

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:11:09 -0500
From: SkEiht@aol.com
Subject: This is a Charlies list, not an internet tutorial.

Yeah, man.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:19:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Benda 
Subject: I didn't realise

I didn't realise that there were so many gradeschoolers that liked the 
Roses and the Charlatans....you'll 'ave to settle your differences like 
nice little boys and girls or there'll be no recess...

Any angry mailers on this list should put their thumbs in their mouths 
and go sit in the corner for a while 'till this all gets a wittle 
healthier....

teacher

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:08:53 +0000 (GMT)
From: "SC. Barrie" 
Subject: Re: THIS IS A MAILING LIST

> I'd like to urge everyone on this list to please realize it's a mailing 
> list and stop sending one-line, bullshit messages to everyone on it.  If 
> you have something to say to a particular person, can you just mail them 
> personally?  Do you know how to do that?  Quit the one-on-one chatter and 
> also stuff like "roses are better tho".  
> 
> Why do people become so stupid when they use the Internet?

I agree entirely. Top respect to Justin Beck.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:14:27 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina  Clair)
Subject: Re: FIND THE 'ROSES MAILING LIST, MONKEY BOY.

> ENOUGH SAID

ugh.  I can't believe anyone would recommend someone to the Stone Roses 
mailing list.  it is awful.  stay here - it's much cooler.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:15:19 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Kid?

I remember a couple years ago I had tickets to go see the Charlies, but they
cancelled their tour about half way through it.  I think it was the between
10th & 11th tour.  I asked the ticket guy if he knew the reason it was
cancelled, and he told me Tim's girlfriend had a baby.  Does anyone know if
this is true?

Cheers!

Travis
Live it like you love it

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:14:17 -0500
From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green)
Subject: Re: Kid?

>I remember a couple years ago I had tickets to go see the Charlies, but they
>cancelled their tour about half way through it.  I think it was the between
>10th & 11th tour.  I asked the ticket guy if he knew the reason it was
>cancelled, and he told me Tim's girlfriend had a baby.  Does anyone know if
>this is true?
>
>Cheers!
>Travis

i saw the charlies that summer ('92?) at the HFStival in DC.  they flew in the
same day and the flaky dj guy at the mic said they (the charlatans) were late
cause tim's girlfriend had just had a kid.  of course there's room for alot of
error here.  i'm not sure if the kid was tim's or not.  my guess is no.
anyone know?

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:55:39 -0500
From: LNorth2214@aol.com
Subject: Re: roses

I agree.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 23:01:41 -0500
From: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: mailing list

Well -

It seems as if we have a few folks who don't understand the rules and
politesse of a mailing list.  Accordingly, they have made the majority of
the people read their little one sentence replies and totally unresponsive
statements or even worse, uncontexted (new word!) statements.

People, this is the fucking internet, OK?  No one polices us but ourselves.
If you wanna pull all this personal ranting and raving or hidden innuendo
shit, go pull it elsewhere, and quit bothering all of us who want to hear
people's opinions.  If you rant and rave, that;s fine to do on a list, but
these little pain in the ass personal messages and one word or one sentence
responses are not the thing to do on this list, OK?  Do we have to spell it
out ANY clearer?

Please. people, let's get on with the Charlies or whoever.

Peace, Chris

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 17:12:31 +0000
From: James D McAllister 
Subject: Re: THIS IS A MAILING LIST

YOURE A DUM-DUM,
HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST??????

At 08:22 05/03/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>I'd like to urge everyone on this list to please realize it's a mailing 
>list and stop sending one-line, bullshit messages to everyone on it.  If 
>you have something to say to a particular person, can you just mail them 
>personally?  Do you know how to do that?  Quit the one-on-one chatter and 
>also stuff like "roses are better tho".  
>
>Why do people become so stupid when they use the Internet?

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:56:32 -0500
From: LNorth2214@aol.com
Subject: Re: roses

Roses rule! ROSES ARE BETTER ROSES ARE BETTER ROSES ARE BETTER ROSES ARE
BETTER ROSES ARE BETTER ROSES ARE BETTER ROSES ARE
BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:24:21 GMT
From: Mr Silly 
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??

the roses are good, when I spoke to Tim he said that they were a very 
big influence on him, to start song writing
t

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:35:03 +0000
From: James D McAllister 
Subject: Re: roses

HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST!!!!!!
by the way, arent these bands an influence on the charlies and therefor
relevant?
ONCE MORE, HOW DO I GET OFF THE LIST!!!

At 10:28 05/03/96 -0500, you wrote:
>this is supposed to be about the charlatans, not about the other manchester
>bands.  while i'm at it, could someone tell me where to find b-sides and
>bootlegs of charlatans?  thanx.    graham.

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 17:34:28 +0000
From: James D McAllister 
Subject: Re: HEISEI, DO YOU HAVE SECOND COMING?

HELLO

At 08:15 05/03/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>THIS IS A MAILING LIST.
>
>Please use personal e-mail for this stuff!!
>
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>        O /  Hey...taxi!    |    Justin Beck, Space Cabbie
>       /|                   |    Dept. of Cognitive Science
>       < >                  |    University of CA, Irvine
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>
>On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 SkEiht@aol.com wrote:
>
>> ENJOY, YOUR LOVELY FRIEND
>> 
>
>

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Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:07:40 -0500
From: Olga Aboy 
Subject: Re: promo luck

fuck off
At 10:00 PM 3/3/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got 3 Charlies promo tapes!  I totally got lucky on the hunt today.
> Up to our hips,  The Charlatans, and Some Friendly? either that or it's from
>the only one I know.
>The tracks are The only one I know/Then/Polar Bear/Sonic   and the same on
>the b side.  Does any one know if this is Some friendly's?  Also picked up
>the Swe@r's nuisance promo tape.  Is there a Swe@r chat line?  Discography?
> I'm trying to accumulate one from what I have so anybody got something they
>think I could use please let me know.  
>
>

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:51:21 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath" 
Subject: Re: roses

AT SCHOOL! ,FUCKIN ELL TRAVIS, HOW OLD ARE YER 12?
   AS FOR GO FIGURE,IF YER WANT TO GET STATO LIKE
-1-THE ROSES FIRST ALBUM HAS SOLD MORE THAN 
SOME FRIENDLY.FACT.
2-SECOND COMING WAS RELEASED BEFORE CHRISTMAS
,THE TIME WHEN UNLESS YOUR JACKO YOU ARE NOT
GOING TO GET TO NUMBER 1,IF YOU RECALL THE ALBUM
THAT KEPT THEM OFF THE TOP WAS THE BEAUTIFUL
SOUTH WHICH SOLD 1.5 MILLION.THE ROSES ALBUM 
SOLD 250'000 IN THE FIRST MONTH.THE CHARLIE
RECORD WAS RELEASED AFTER CHRISTMas  WHEN A NUM
BER ONE ALBUM COULD BE ACHIEVED WITH A MUCH 
SMALLER FRACTION.
3-IF THE SECOND COMING HAD BEEN RELEASED
IN THER FOLLOWING FEB.IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER
ONE.FACT

  SO DAVE LEE TRAVIS ,GO FIGURE.

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Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 17:22:45 +0000
From: James D McAllister 
Subject: Re: COBBLERS

THE STONE ROSES ARE THE BESTEST

At 08:13 05/03/96 -0800, you wrote:
>
>How many of you people know what a mailing list is??
>
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>        O /  Hey...taxi!    |    Justin Beck, Space Cabbie
>       /|                   |    Dept. of Cognitive Science
>       < >                  |    University of CA, Irvine
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>
>On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, MILLER_MELANI_S wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 LNorth2214@aol.com wrote:
>> 
>> > The verve is better than the charlatans!
>> > 
>> 
>> 
>> no it isn't.
>> 
>> 
>
>

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:51:26 +0100 (BST)
From: "T.E. McGrath" 
Subject: Re: THIS IS A MAILING LIST

OH IS THIS REALLY A MAILING LIST?
 WELL SPOTTED BECK.
FOR FUCKS SAKE I WOULD RATHER HAVE A DEBATE
ABOUT WHICH BAND PEOPLE PREFER , THAN SOME
DILL  ASKING FOR FELLOW PEOPLES BANDS ETC.
SO BECKY,IF YOU DON'T LIKE LIVELY DEBATE 
PLEASE GO AND READ YOUR COMPUTER MAGS
IN YOUR BEDROOM,WHILE EVERYONE ELSE ARGUES
THEIR CASE.

                       MONKEYBOY.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:00:54 +0000 (GMT)
From: Vickie the Viking 
Subject: Re: THIS IS A MAILING LIST

On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Rick den Breejen wrote:

> > Date:          Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:22:01 -0800 (PST)
> > From:          Justin Beck 
> > To:            charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> > Subject:       THIS IS A MAILING LIST
> > Reply-to:      charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> 
> > 
> > I'd like to urge everyone on this list to please realize it's a mailing 
> > list and stop sending one-line, bullshit messages to everyone on it.  If 
> 
> Yo, better tell me how to unsubscribe me from this list wich I never 
> suvbscribed to...
> 
> 
> Rick
 
and Vick...am I stuck with this for life or something?

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:42:47 +0000 (GMT)
From: Chris 
Subject: Re: esposos

On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Jason Benda wrote:

> Hey, just wondering if Tim and Sarah Cracknell are still married, or if 
> that fell by the wayside.
> 
> Where is the long-awaited, ever-anticipated Charlatans/St. etienne 
> single if indeed, they are still husband and wife?  Maybe Sarah was 
> shaggin' that crazy Ringo Starr looking guy in the band.  Can't blame 
> him.......
> 
> "Although it makes you very angry,
> You don't want it watered down......"
> 
> 
> Jason

Errrrmmmmm It was only a video mate. They didnt really get married.
I Was Born On Christms Day was only a one off, I doubt theyll ever do 
anything together again.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:01:35 -0500
From: jrobin@tiac.net (Sproston Green)
Subject: Re: Stone Roses??

from  James D McAllister :

>THEN WHY DID THE CHARLIES SUPPORT THE ROSES AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND,
>EH?!!!!
>GET ME OFF THIS LIST....PLEASE.

I'm posting this assuming that you can read.....

 = charlatans

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 96 18:03:07 GMT
From: MD Bridger 
Subject: BLOW IT OUT YOUR ARSE

Justin Beck: You are a Boring fart, and an American boring fart at that.So go 
and listen to your talentless American bands who can't write lyrics to save 
their lives, but sell loads of records to the sad and stupid American public.

I just wanted to get that off my chest, Mark.

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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 17:56:17 -0500
From: Munj@aol.com
Subject: Personal Mail

Just a request for those who might not have been on a mailing list before:
 Please keep any mail that you send to the entire list (address:
 charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no) with questions or dialouge for the entire
list.  If you are trading tapes with someone, or engaging in a private
conversation, or even god forbid writing a two-word message please only
address it to the specific people involved.  I am getting between 10-20
messages a day (and a lot of other people are too) that should be addressed
to only one person.  It's just kind of frustrating when I want to see if
there is anything interesting being said and I have to search through 10
meaningless messages to find it.  Again, I don't mean to sound superior.
 I've done the above before too, and if anyone has any questions about how to
send mail to the specific person who sent it to the list feel free to email
me.

Thanks,
Munj@aol.com

P.S.  I asked this before, but has anyone ever actually seen the Charlatans
play "Stir It Up", a song which it seems that a great many of us like (myself
included)?  It's kind of a waste to write excellent songs and then never give
anyone a chance to see them performed.  Also, does anyone have any
interesting Charlatans posters?  It's kind of hard to find many decent ones
stateside if you don't live near a big city or have a really cool record shop
in your hometown.  I have one that is with Tim painted in the American flag
(from a Jesus Hairdo video?), with the rest of the band wearing shades, that
I've only seen once.

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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 12:17:19 +0100 (MET)
From: root 
Subject: Temporary shutdown of mailinglist.

I am shutting this mailinglist for 1 week due to overload on the machine 
this mailinglist is running. This machine has gone down twice this week 
because of heavy load. 

I'm sorry, I will announce it's opening as soon as I can find a solution 
to this.

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:20:44 -0500 (EST)
From: x95linderman@wmich.edu
Subject: Re: Smile

On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 HEISEI6692@aol.com wrote:

> Well, it seems that everyone is in a good mood.  Glad to hear it.  So what's
> the reason then?  I think there was only one positive reply to me last
> posting.  Listen, if everyone is so fucking negative then why bother to write
> it in?  have a glorious day.  Sorry about the lack of Charlies info.
> 
> Cheers!
> Travis

Gee, maybe if people are sending negative replies, it's because they 
don't want to be on the list and are sick of getting messages.  Perhaps, 
if you could tell us how to "terminate" our subscriptions instead of 
ignoring repeated messages about this, you wouldn't have so many pissed 
off people.  
Just a thought...

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 15:35:50 EST5EDT
From: "jim lowe"  
Subject: Re: Smile

> Gee, maybe if people are sending negative replies, it's because they 
> don't want to be on the list and are sick of getting messages.  Perhaps, 
> if you could tell us how to "terminate" our subscriptions instead of 
> ignoring repeated messages about this, you wouldn't have so many pissed 
> off people.  
> Just a thought...

You mean, there have actually been messages on this list during the 
past week?

I haven't received a thing since Monday.

Let's see:

You don't want to get messages from this list, but you are.
I want to get messages from this list, but I'm not.

There is more than a little irony in this situation!

jim
Cheers!   
     
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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:40:14 +0100
From: "Rick den Breejen" 
Subject: Re: welcome back everyone!!!!!!!!

> The "maintainer" of this list has already gone through instructions as to 
> how to terminate your subscriptions to this list.  If you have forgotten, 
> or need to see the instructions again, why can't you all write to him 
> personally?  If you don't have this address, TRY GETTING IT.
> Replying to all of these silly "get me off this list" 
> messages will do nothing to get you off, and are more annoying than 
> anything else.

'cause that won't work sicko. I tried all formal and informal methods 
to unsubscribe me from this boring list and even that Norwegian guy mailed 
me that he'll get me off that list manually. And see...  I'm still 
on.

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:44:29 +0000 (GMT)
From: ANDREW CHRUSCHT 
Subject: singles

Could anyone tell me if the singles, me in time and over rising are
worth getting cos i've only recently started to listen to the
charlatans, since the release of crashin' in and was thinking about
buying some of the older stuff, i have the four albums and the recent
singles, but the older ones i haven't heard.  Also could anyone
recommend any way of obtaining indian rope as i just can't get hold of
it at all.  Thanks for your time,
                                   Andy.

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:13:32 -0800 (PST)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Re: singles

>Could anyone tell me if the singles, me in time and over rising are
>worth getting cos i've only recently started to listen to the
>charlatans, since the release of crashin' in and was thinking about
>buying some of the older stuff, i have the four albums and the recent
>singles, but the older ones i haven't heard.  Also could anyone
>recommend any way of obtaining indian rope as i just can't get hold of
>it at all.  Thanks for your time,
>                                   Andy.

Andy, one great thing about the Charlatans is that they put out not only
great albums, but also great singles with cool remixes and awesome extra
tracks...Both Over rising and Me in time are great, and so are the rest...I
highly reccomend the singles from the Up to our hips sessions (Jesus hairdo,
Easy life, and Can't get out of bed) there are some tops songs on them (Stir
it Up is one of Charlatan's greatest works...so is Subterranean...)

Get their singles, they are worth it...If you can't find Indian Rope, I'd
make you tape copy of it...let me know...

Good luck!

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 23:25:41 -0500
From: HEISEI6692@aol.com
Subject: Re: singles

Me. In time is a fucking brilliant single as is a lot of the Charlies other
singles.  You should definately check them out.  Indian rope.....well there's
a hard one to find.  Ya just gotta keep lookin'  It took me about 2 years to
find it and when I did I found it in 12" form and CD single (I got 'em both)
 Just try new record stores that sell used CD's or real dodgy looking record
stores they usually have a lot of what you wouldn't expect.

Cheers!
Travis

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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:28:17 -0800 (PST)
From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F)
Subject: Re: singles

>Could anyone tell me if the singles, me in time and over rising are
>worth getting cos i've only recently started to listen to the
>charlatans, since the release of crashin' in and was thinking about
>buying some of the older stuff, i have the four albums and the recent
>singles, but the older ones i haven't heard.  Also could anyone
>recommend any way of obtaining indian rope as i just can't get hold of
>it at all.  Thanks for your time,
>                                   Andy.

andy, i have all three and will sell them for $10 each. they are all very
cool, i had all my singles put onto cd so i am willing to sell the
originals
jeff

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 01:00:25 -0600 (CST)
From: The Swede 
Subject: up to our hips box

Do you happen to know-- is the box green?

I got a big 'ol green up to our hips box in December 94.  It came with 
one of the 'Jesus Hairdo' singles that had a few live radio tracks. Are 
we talking about the same thing?

john

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 09:51:00 -0600
From: Brett Matthew Haydin  (Bretter)
Subject: Band Results

        Ok So I tallied the bands that were submitted and put them in
alphabetical order.  I'm not surprised that I own most of these bands!!!
Sorry if this took so long, but I went on spring break while the list was
down. I hope you enjoy these!

The Results are In!! They Are:  

Auteurs
Band of Susans
Bauhaus
Beatles
Bluetones
Blur
Boo Radleys
Cast
Chapterhouse
Charlatans
Chemical brothers
Chumbawamba
Coast
Darkside
Dylans
echobelly
Elastica
Gene
Inspiral Carpets
Levelers
Luna 
Madder Rose
Menswe@r
Moose
My Bloody Valentine
New Order
Oasis
Orbital
The Prodigy
Pulp
Ride
Robyn Hitchcock
Rosemary's
Salad
Shed 7
Sleeper
Sly and the Family Stone
Spiritualized
St. Etienne
Starflyer 59
Stone Roses
Suede
Supergrass
Trashcan Sinatras
Verve
                                              Bretter

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 11:36:56 EST5EDT
From: "jim lowe"  
Subject: Re: Band Results

Much thanks to Brett for his work on this list!  I don't remember if I 
submitted a ballot or not, but there are some great bands on this list.

> The Results are In!! They Are:  
> 
> Auteurs

Right now, the Auteurs are second only to charlatans in my mind.  
They are, without a doubt, a thinking musician's band, and I strongly 
recomend checking them out.

> Beatles

I guess this goes without saying, doesn't it?

> Bluetones

If you like early Stone Roses stuff, you'll enjoy the Bluetones.

> Blur
> Boo Radleys

A couple of old standby's.  Alot of people are jumping off of the Blur 
bandwagon, but both of these bands provide great pop music.

> Cast

My favourite new band of last year.  Their album "All Change" is okay, 
but didn't live up to my expectations.

> Chapterhouse

Are they still around?

> Charlatans

Who?  ;-)  Oh yeah...the best band in the world!

> Dylans

Another "what ever happened to?" band.  I would appreciate any 
information on what has happened to this band.  The last single that I 
noticed was "I'll Be Back to Haunt You".

> Oasis

Alot of people seem to dislike this band.  They are one of my favourites 
but, in all honestly, I think "Just Lookin" out-Oasised Oasis!

> Pulp
> Ride

Two more great bands.

> Sly and the Family Stone

Glad to see they made the list...

> Stone Roses
> Suede

No surprise here.  Both bands are releasing new albums in 96.

> Supergrass

A great new band.  I strongly recomend buying their new single, 
"Going Out".

jim

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:51:07 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina  Clair)
Subject: Laxton

I have a question about a new british band, but I can't remember the 
name.  I think it has two words, the first of which is Laxton or Paxton 
or something like that.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?

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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:55:37 -0600 (MDT)
From: MILLER_MELANI_S 
Subject: Re: Band Results

The end list looks pretty cool... 

Now I need a question answered... okay.. I saw the track listing for 
'Trance Europe Express 4" and it has a mix of 'life is sweet' I need to 
know if it still has the vocal track and is a decent rendition of the 
song as that would be one of the main reasons for getting it.

btw... are there any other british ppl on this list.. I'd like to be in 
contact with ppl who can tell me whats happening back there (musically or 
otherwise.) hope this is not too wierd a request... Have fun, 

							Phil...
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 23:58:30 -0600 (CST)
From: Sproston Green 
Subject: Re: Band Results

phil-
 i would reccommend getting the life is sweet 2cd set. it has some 
EXCELLENT mixes of life is sweet plus a bside plus a mix of chicos groove 
from their lp. it is available in the us as a 2cd set or as an import 1cd 
with all of the tracks on 1 cd. either way its about the same price. i 
would be leery of the mix on trance... having the vocal mix as all of the 
mixes on the single do not have the vocals, but that doesnt mean they 
arent good! I am fast becoming a big fan of the chemical brothers. Go out 
and buy their new ep, loops of fury, its great as well.

cheers
matt

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:58:02 PST
From: Simon Amor 
Subject: Re: your mail

On Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:51:07 -0500 (EST) Kristina Clair wrote:

> I have a question about a new british band, but I can't remember the 
> name.  I think it has two words, the first of which is Laxton or Paxton 
> or something like that.  Does this sound familiar to anyone?

The band that you`re thinkin' of is called Laxtons Superb, they`ve just had
a single out over here but I can`t remember what it`s called. 

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:16:53 GMT
From: The Soul Saver 
Subject: Re: Trance Europe Express 4

> Now I need a question answered... okay.. I saw the track listing for 
> 'Trance Europe Express 4" and it has a mix of 'life is sweet' I need to 
> know if it still has the vocal track and is a decent rendition of the 
> song as that would be one of the main reasons for getting it.
> 
> btw... are there any other british ppl on this list.. I'd like to be in 
> contact with ppl who can tell me whats happening back there (musically or 
> otherwise.) hope this is not too wierd a request... Have fun, 

The other mixes of life is sweet don't have any vocals on but never 
the less they are very good indeed. As for a decent rendition ... 
well as with a lot of re-mixes the re-mix doen't sound much like 
original. A good purchase wood be to buy the Life Is Sweet cd set 
which has some very good tracks, especially cd2. The Loops of Fury EP 
is also top quality including a good remix of Chemical Beat by Dave 
Clarke. 

Speaking of which ... is Archive 1 by Dave Clarke any good? I've 
heard a coulple of tracks which have been OK. They've tended to start 
with a good idea, play around with it a bit, but never really 
develope it or bring in any other ideas.

btw ... I'm a British person and there seems to be nothing going on 
at the moment but there is a slot on an British radio show called 
What the Story? which answers peoples questions like what are such 
and such a band doing at the moment so I'll submit a question to them 
and hopefully let you know of the responce.

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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 11:40:01 -0600
From: Brett Matthew Haydin  (Bretter)
Subject: Re: Band Results

Phil,

If Trance Europe Express is much like it's counterpart Volume, than
all the tracks on it are unreleased cuts you won't find anywhere else.  Pick
it up!

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Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:53:30 -0500
From: zinha@idirect.com
Subject: superspectacular11th!

BLOW-UP
Toronto, Canada 

as some of you may have found out last night, next week (Mar. 30) is the
BLOW-UP SUPER SPECTACULAR 11th PARTY!

it'll feature 4 bands including SPEED ORCHID, KNOCKOUT PILL, THE TOPPERMOST 
and ADMIRAL. each band will play for about 20 minutes and, I quote, "keeping 
with the blow-up theme each band has agreed to our wacky idea of throwing in 
a few '60s covers just for fun."

the liverockunroll starts at 10 pm ("sharp!") and the DJ Davy starts
spinning @ 11:30...

beyond that, this coming friday (29th) at A DIFFERENT CLASS I'll be giving up 
the hot seat  (11 pm to whenever) to Mike McCann who - as some of you may know- 
has done his fair share of spinning around and about thee golden horseshoe. 

help us alert the masses!
cheers,
Tim (republic@interlog.com)

BLOW-UP HOMEPAGE http://www.interlog.com/~republic/blowup.html
     @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
     @         NoWay! ~ Music Chronicles           @
     @            c/o Teresinha Costa              @
     @   http://www.idirect.com/users/zinha.html   @
     @             zinha@idirect.com               @
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Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 08:09:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck 
Subject: Re: superspectacular11th!

Under US Code 47, unsolicited advertisements through e-mail could be 
considered illegal and subject to a fine up to $500.  So quit it.

---------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:49:39 +0000 (GMT)
From: Hewes 
Subject: Re: welcome back everyone!!!!!!!!

Me TOO, I HATE THIS LIST, GET ME OFF IT!"!!!!!!!!!!

On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 x95linderman@wmich.edu wrote:

> how do I get of this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Rick den Breejen wrote:
> 
> > I hate you.
> > I hate you.
> > I hate you, maintainer of this list.
> > 
> > > From:          HEISEI6692@aol.com
> > > Date:          Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:45:25 -0500
> > > To:            charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> > > Subject:       welcome back everyone!!!!!!!!
> > > Reply-to:      charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> > 
> > > I just thought I'd say welcome back to everyone.  Has anyone heard anything
> > > new about the Charlies?  I just ordered an Up to our hips box set that was
> > > just released!?!  Beggars is a little behind on this one aren't they?  It
> > > supposedly doesn't come with anything new Just the singles and the album, but
> > > hey that's cool.  Supposedly there was an up to our hips box set that was
> > > released last year that came with a live cd?  does anyone know about this?
> > >  well gotta go.
> > > 
> > > Cheers!
> > > 
> > > Travis
> > > Live it like you love it
> > > HEISEI6692@aol.com
> > > 
> > 
> 

----------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:30:31 -0500 (EST)
From: gina l marchetti 
Subject: new subscriber

does anyone post to this list.  i have not received a single message 
since i have subscribed.  i am looking for any current information on the 
charlatans.  ie.  new albums or tours.  thank you .

gina

------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:14:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Justin Beck 
Subject: Re: WANT TO GET OFF LIST

I too have tried all the informal as well as formal methods of removing 
myself from this list!  None of them work.

MAINTAINER OF THIS LIST, GET WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Hewes wrote:

> Me TOO, I HATE THIS LIST, GET ME OFF IT!"!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 x95linderman@wmich.edu wrote:
> 
> > how do I get of this list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > 
> > On Mon, 18 Mar 1996, Rick den Breejen wrote:
> > 
> > > I hate you.
> > > I hate you.
> > > I hate you, maintainer of this list.
> > > 
> > > > From:          HEISEI6692@aol.com
> > > > Date:          Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:45:25 -0500
> > > > To:            charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> > > > Subject:       welcome back everyone!!!!!!!!
> > > > Reply-to:      charlatans@stud2.misjonshs.no
> > > 
> > > > I just thought I'd say welcome back to everyone.  Has anyone heard anything
> > > > new about the Charlies?  I just ordered an Up to our hips box set that was
> > > > just released!?!  Beggars is a little behind on this one aren't they?  It
> > > > supposedly doesn't come with anything new Just the singles and the album, but
> > > > hey that's cool.  Supposedly there was an up to our hips box set that was
> > > > released last year that came with a live cd?  does anyone know about this?
> > > >  well gotta go.
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > 
> > > > Travis
> > > > Live it like you love it
> > > > HEISEI6692@aol.com
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:56:52 -0600 (CST)
From: mquinn@umr.edu
Subject: Re: WANT TO GET OFF LIST
 
. I too have tried all the informal as well as formal methods of removing 
. myself from this list!  None of them work.
 
. MAINTAINER OF THIS LIST, GET WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!

please remove mquinn@umr.edu also.  
q

---------------------------
 
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 10:09:10 -0800 (PST)
From: Chasson Gracie 
Subject: Re: new subscriber

	Working on the new album now

				Chasson

-----------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:30:21 -0500 (EST)
From: ibon500@cord.iupui.edu
Subject: back again and britain news

had to recently unsub from the list a bit ago
due to a change in user accounts but i had
to come back when i got my new account running
here at school.  anyways, my reason for mailing
is because in june i will be flying out to
england for 6 months!  it is a school related
program and i am looking forward to it but i
am definitely interested in meeting a lot of
you on the list.  there is still a lot of time
until then but i wanted to learn more about everyone.
reply personally if you would like to talk about
bands, habits, pubs, and the greatest sport in the 
world, English Football!!!!

rene' gonzalez

----------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:00:21 -0500 (EST)
From: kclair@sas.upenn.edu (Kristina  Clair)
Subject: Re: new subscriber

> does anyone post to this list.  i have not received a single message 
> since i have subscribed.  i am looking for any current information on the 
> charlatans.  ie.  new albums or tours.  thank you .
> 
> gina

It has been a bit slow lately.

-----------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:24:26 +0100
From: "Rick den Breejen" 
Subject: Re: Temporary shutdown of mailinglist.

> I am shutting this mailinglist for 1 week due to overload on the
> machine this mailinglist is running. This machine has gone down
> twice this week because of heavy load. 

I'm really glad to hear that. I never asked for this boring mail, I 
asked you to unscribe me, polite and even unpolite and I still kept 
recieving this shit.

--------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:25:11 -0800 (PST)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: let's chat

Hello everyone!

I was wondering if people from this list would be interested in a live chat
somewhere on the net...We can discuss Charlatans related topics, exchange
opinions and ideas, etc. real time...I have a site to suggest if people
would be interested in something like a meeting. The chatsite is called From
the Hip, and its address is: http://www.rockweb.com/x/rwi-chat

We could arrange a convinient for most meeting time and try it...If
interested, please reply...

"I can't even be bothered, energy breaks me down..."

Krassi

-----------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 14:25:34 -0800 (PST)
From: klyakov@ucsd.edu (Lyakov) (Krassi Lyakov)
Subject: Charlatans fans

Hi everyone!

I haven't updated my Charlatans fans list in a very long time, so I would
ask for people who have added to the list recently, or don't see their names
listed bellow, to submit their personal info (if they feel like it, of
course)...

Thank you very much!

"Live it like you love it!..."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
CHARLATANS FANS FROM AROUND THE WORLD

/1/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Dave Gardin 
e-mail: DavidG6523@aol.com
location: San Jose, California
country: USA

additional info: Male, age 35, Inventory Control Planner
/2/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Martin Fawley 
e-mail: "(What's the story...) Martin Fawley"
            
location: Malvern
country: England

additional info: Occupation: Student at Bath University, 
	           but currently on a years placement in 
	           Malvern (nr. Worcester); 
	           Originally from Leeds.
/3/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Lisa Boshuizen
e-mail:  9416641@edufee.fee.uva.nl
location: Amsterdam
country: Netherlands.

additional info: b-day: December 15, 1974 
/4/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Erik Soderstrom
e-mail: chief@lysator.liu.se
location: Linkoping
country: Sweden
/5/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Jim Lowe
e-mail: "James D. Lowe" 
             
location: Barrie, Ontario
country: Canada

additional info: Research Director & College Instructor
/6/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Justin Beck
e-mail: Justin Beck 
location: Irvine, California
country: USA
/7/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Arthur Rehak 
e-mail: Rehak 
location: Kearny (NJ)
country: USA
/8/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Douglas VanWieren 
e-mail: backbeat@IslandNet.com
             (backbeat@islandnet.com)
location: Victoria, BC
country: Canada
/9/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Tats
e-mail: Graham.Robertson@ed.ac.uk
location: Edinburgh
country: Scotland

additional info: Soccer Club : Heart of Midlothian; 
	          Age: 22; Sex : Male; Top5: Stone Roses, 
	          Charlatans, Happy Mondays, Oasis, 
	          Inspiral Carpets
/10/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Krassi Lyakov
e-mail: klyakov@ucsd.edu
location: San Diego, California
country: USA

additional info: Bulgarian; hobbies: songwriting, listening to 
                         and playing music,painting, writing, badminton,
                         football (known as soccer in America), skiing; 
                         phone #: (619)452 - 0461 (just in case someone 
                         ends up visiting San Diego - please feel free to 
                         give me a call and we'll go out for a coffee......)
/11/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Sujay Jhaveri
e-mail: Sujay Jhaveri 
location: New York
country: USA
/12/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Greg Ipp 
e-mail: "Greg Ipp" 
location: Vancouver, BC
country:  Canada
/13/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Merrilee Wolsey
e-mail: MERRILEE WOLSEY 
location: Lethbridge, AB. 
country: Canada

additional info: age 21, from vancouver, bc. canada,	           senior art student
/14/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: John Bergstrom
location: Milwaukee Wisconsin
country: USA

/15/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Andy Fraire
e-mail: andyf@as.ucsb.edu
location: Santa Barbara, CA
country: USA

additional info: Music Director KCSB-FM, Best record
	           of the year: Chemical Brothers 
	           "Exit Planet Dust"..and i made that choice 
	           before hearing Tim say it.
/16/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Matt Ungerer
e-mail: Munj@aol.com
location: Syracuse, NY
country: USA

additional info: exact address: Matt Ungerer
			    302 Meadow Rd.
			    Syracuse, NY 13219
			    USA
/17/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Christine Jack
e-mail: cjack@islandnet.com
location: Victoria B.C
country: Canada
/18/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Lee Talbot
e-mail: etllett@etlxdmx.ericsson.se
location: Brighton
country: UK

additional info: 23 year old male, Software Designer.
                          Originally from Bridgend, S.Wales.
/19/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Shane Brown
e-mail: sbrown@netexpress.net (Shane M Brown)
location: Rock Island, IL
country: USA

additional info: street address 1103 25th St. #B2, 
                         Rock Island, IL 61201 USA
                         Male, age 25, Classified Telesales
                         Representatives for a local newspaper.  
                         My tops for 1995:  Tricky, Chemical Bros
                         Radiohead, Swervedriver, Oasis, Charlies.

/20/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Niklas Hultin
e-mail: hultiin0@seraph1.sewanee.edu (Niklas Hultin)
location: Sewanee, TN
country: USA

/21/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Steven Linderman
e-mail: x95linderman@wmich.edu
location: Western Michigan University
country: USA
/22/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Ioanna Kotsogiannis
e-mail: iwavva@umich.edu
location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
country: USA

additional info: Greek, Political Science/Anthropology 
                          major, University of Michigan 18 years old 
                          (b-day: September 6, 1977), love poetry, 
                          art, and dancing 
/23/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------
name: Chris Steinmetz
e-mail: cstein@sava.gulfnet.com (Chris Steinmetz)
location: Savannah, GA
country: USA

additional info: addres: 402 E. 55th St., Savannah, 
                                     Ga. 31405 USA


Peace!
Krassi

--------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 17:36:26 -0800
From: lance 
Subject: Re: Temporary shutdown of mailinglist.

root wrote:
> 
> I am shutting this mailinglist for 1 week due to overload on the machine
> this mailinglist is running. This machine has gone down twice this week
> because of heavy load.
> 
> I'm sorry, I will announce it's opening as soon as I can find a solution
> to this.
> 
>       T r y g v e   G u d m u n d s e n  -+-  (trygu@stud2.misjonshs.no)
>                  ".. ordinary boys, happy knowing nothing."THANK YOU KILL IT IT SUCKS YOU SUCKS GET ME OFF THIS 
RIDE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>FUCK YOU:)

-------------------------

Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:25:03 PST
From: Doena Kim 
Subject: Re: new subscriber 

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, gina l marchetti wrote:

> does anyone post to this list.  i have not received a single message 
> since i have subscribed.  i am looking for any current information on the 
> charlatans.  ie.  new albums or tours.  thank you .
> 
> gina
I know what you mean.  I haven't received anything either.  But I don't 
think there is any news at the moment.  I read British publications 
pretty regularly and I haven't come across anything.  I have an e-mail 
pal in Norwich so if he finds out anything new, I'll be sure to relay it 
to this list.  Until then,

Doena

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