The Avalyn Digest

There are 29 messages totalling 705 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Pygmalion lyrics (3)
  2. Replying privately
  3. effects pdls vs. units (10)
  4. London's Ninja Tune Records hits Toronto!
  5. Third Eye Foundation
  6. ETHEREAL-NOISE MIDIS !!!!
  7. Silvania and FSA (6)
  8. FWD: NEWS: Local Phone Company To Charge Per Minute For Internet Access
  9. Who is this band SPACE (4)
 10. kudos to Claire de Leon

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Date: Tue Feb  4 19:59:50 1997
From: Gregorio Samsa 
Subject: Pygmalion lyrics

Hi Folks !!!!

Well , i am new here . And i was searching like crazy looking for the 
Pygmaliuon lyrics some months ago , and i have not it alredy :-( 
I just would like to know if somebody have it and could help me.

bye,
G. Samsa.

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Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 23:01:42 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (the bus that couldn't slow down)
Subject: Re: Pygmalion lyrics

>Hi Folks !!!!
>
>Well , i am new here . And i was searching like crazy looking for the 
>Pygmaliuon lyrics some months ago , and i have not it alredy :-( 
>I just would like to know if somebody have it and could help me.
>
>bye,
>G. Samsa.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^

Big fan of Kafka, are we?

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Date: Wed,  5 Feb 1997 15:34:47, -0500
From: GGNL44A@prodigy.com ( JRR   TOLKIEN)
Subject: Replying privately

There seems to be an upsurge of people that send mail to this list 
that would be much more appropriate if sent to the original writer. 
When replying to mail, check your "to box". If it has the address of 
the mailing list in it, remove it. Put in the private address of the 
specific person that you are replying to. The only reason why I am 
sending this mail is because 8 out of the 9 messages I got today were 
just that. Messages that shold have been sent directly back to the 
original writer. The 9th was someone that obviously does not know how 
to subscribe to a mailing list. Thats my two cents worth.
      Ryan (GGNL44A@Prodigy.com)

p.s. sorry for those that received this email more than once. I sent 
it out to three different mailing lists that those 9 messages and 
others in the past week have come from.

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 07:14:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Melochrome@aol.com
Subject: Re: effects pdls vs. units

well, i guess it depends on what you want the effects for...in the studio, i
prefer a rack (a friend/ex-bandmate of mine recently got a pretty cool
digitech floor rack that had a few footswitches and a volume/wah pedal) 
for playing live, i prefer boss pedals. i pretty much can get most of the
sounds i want from them & they're much more reliable than a rack, in my
opinion.  also racks tend to sound a bit slick which is fine for the studio.

when i went out with neil after a slowdive gig, someone asked him & he too
preferred boss i believe...

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:36:02 -0500 (EST)
From: conspiracy? 
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

> I just had a question, if anyone out there is using an effects unit and
> if they can get some good dreampopish sounds out of it? I have about six
> to seven pedals, and I thought about trading them in for just one big
> unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
> to click over and change sounds smoothly.

Hello, I'm Ben from The Sunflower Conspiracy.  We're two guitarists, 
bass, and drum machine, and we use rack gear for the guitars.  The 
Bassist has four DOD pedals.

I have the Digitech Valve FX.  It's basically an RP-10 in a rack w/ a 
tube distortion section.  I've noticed, however,  that the switching time 
between presets is less than on the RP-10.  I love this unit.  The other 
guitarist, Barry, has an RP-10, but he just recently got a used 
GSP-2101.  That unit sounds great as well, and it is much more flexible.

With rack gear, I think he sound is usually more clear, even when it's 
completely washy.  Does that make sense?  this is due to the fact that 
with pedals, you almost have to always run them in series, and the sounds 
just build up on top of each other.  With rack gear, you have your choice 
of series or parallel, and you can mix in between.  For instance, if you 
have chorus, delay, and reverb, you can route the signal so that the 
chorused sound doesn't go into the delay, but instead goes straight to 
the reverb, and the clean sound that goes into the delay, only %50 of its 
output goes to the reverb.  And when you run this in stereo, the sound is 
usually wide open, severely effected, but clear.

Pedals and rack gear each have their own strength's and weaknesses.  
Pedals are easier to manipulate, but harder to get many distinct sounds.  
I've also noticed that pedals seem to work better with live and 
loud/crazy drummers, but rack gear seems to work better with a drum 
machine.  

Anyway, I'd suggest that you (and anyone who's interested) test drive 
each option thoroughly.  If you want one or the other, and are in a toss 
up, go to a guitar store and try out the best processor that you can 
afford and would feel comfortable buying.  Give it a whirl in a practice 
room for about an hour, then give your pedals a whirl, and consider which 
you like best and which fits better into your application.

Oh yeah, have fun!

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:52:58 -0500 (EST)
From: grilledcheese 
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

>> I just had a question, if anyone out there is using an effects unit and
>> if they can get some good dreampopish sounds out of it? I have about six
>> to seven pedals, and I thought about trading them in for just one big
>> unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
>> to click over and change sounds smoothly.

you need a rackmount processor for some things, like massive reverb and
all those neato reverse effects (reverse gates, reverse reverbs). but
pedals certainly have their forte. you need a little of both 

ben already mentioned that alot of
pedals can degrade the signal more than a processor. this is true.. most
probably because the signal is preamped, converted to digital, processed,
converted back to analog, and again amplified...FOR EACH PEDAL. a
processor converts to digital and then does everything, only converting
back to analog at the output.

dogjiseoirdjfg
mike

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 17:30:49 -0500
From: "Jason A. Paris" 
Subject: London's Ninja Tune Records hits Toronto!

Hey there,

For those of you looking to broaden your musical horizons a little, I might
suggest checking out the the STEALTH party that will be taking place at the
Warehouse (132 Quuens Quay E @ Jarvis) this Saturday (Feb 8) from 9:00pm
till 8:00am in Toronto.  Tickets are only $15 and are available at all
Ticketmaster outlets until 5:00pm on Saturday.  Tickets are also available
at the local independents and at the door for $20.  This party is sort of a
"Ninja Tune" showcase featuring two of Ninja Tune Record's top artists.
Headlining the bill will be the very well respected DJ Food (London,
England) along with Ninja's newest sensation -- DJ Vadim (Russia). Also on
the bill is Canada's own Kid Koala (Montreal) who is featured on the cover
of this week's EYE magazine.  The night will also feature the Toronto
talents of Jarkko (fucked up drum 'n bass), Lex (from Plus8 Record's LEGION
OF GREEN MEN) along with DJ Gnat, DJ Wig, Myka, Ashley and David Nunez.  The
info line is (416) 812-6250 and this promises to be an evening of totally
original, tripped out, fucked up beats!  If you aren't familiar with Ninja
Tune stuff, I can personally guarantee you that it is some of the most
interesting music being made today.  Sort of an amalgamation of heavy
sampling, acid jazz and lots of drum 'n bass.  It makes for a totally trippy
vibe of music that is both challenging and a lot of fun to listen to.  As
Toronto's rave scene is headed back into the clubs (eg. Industry, Area 51,
etc.) you don't have to worry about this being a party for 16 year olds with
furry back packs on acid.  This will be a real party for real party goers. I
hope to see some of you there!  Cya at Stealth!  :)

Laterz,
JASON PARIS

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Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:56:47 -0600
From: mps2@cec.wustl.edu (Michael Peter Stein)
Subject: Third Eye Foundation

I'm sure alot of you out there may already know about this band, but I 
just want to emphasize that every one should check out THE THIRD EYE
FOUNDATION.  It's an absolutely wicked mix of drum 'n' bass and washy 
distortion (ala MBV, Flying Saucer Attack, and of course Slowdive).  Matt
Elliott, the man behind Third Eye, has also played with Flying Saucer Attack
and AMP.  

Stuff to get:

CD/LP: SEMTEX (on Linda's Strange Vacation)
  12": "Semtex" (on Domino)
CD/LP: IN VERSION (on Linda's Strange Vacation) remixes of FSA, AMP, Crescent
   7": "Universal Cooler"/"I'm not Getting in the Car With You" (on Planet)

I think I've said enuff for now...

-Mike

PS Has anyone gotta review of the new Laika single "Breather"??

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:32:19 +1100
From: Anthony <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

At 06:55 AM 2/6/97 +0100, you wrote:
>Forwarded (please remember to post to: avalyn@lysator.liu.se) message:
>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:48:26 -0500 (EST)
>> From: Wade A Settle 
>> Subject: effects pdls vs. units
>
>hey all,
>I just had a question, if anyone out there is using an effects unit and
>if they can get some good dreampopish sounds out of it? I have about six
>to seven pedals, and I thought about trading them in for just one big
>unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
>to click over and change sounds smoothly.

        I use boss pedals for the compression/distortion stage (digital
distortion sucks) and use a FX500 for delay reverb and symphonic. Also i've
noticed that hollow bodied (semi acoustic) guitars give a better ambience
through all these effects than solid bodied such as fender stats etc.

        Anthony.

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Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 19:47:57 -0500
From: larry@interlog.com (le chat binaire)
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

>> I also have a question, around x-mas time there was talk on this list
>> about some band called Sylviann or something? What is the proper
>> spelling?
>
>Sylvania. like the lightbulbs.

No - Silvania, not like the lightbulbs.

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:12:48 -0500 (EST)
From: conspiracy? 
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

>         I use boss pedals for the compression/distortion stage (digital
> distortion sucks) and use a FX500 for delay reverb and symphonic. Also i've
> noticed that hollow bodied (semi acoustic) guitars give a better ambience
> through all these effects than solid bodied such as fender stats etc.

I'm not trying to be rude, just informative.  Plus you may already know 
this.  Most rack units don't have digital distortion.  They usually have 
a analog atage that does comp, dist, eq, and sometimes noise gate.  Then 
the signal goes through a/d converter, and it get process however you 
wish with the digital effects (phase, flange, delay, reverb, tremolo, 
detune, pitch shift, etc..)  That signal then gets d/a converted in 
stereo, and you can mix it with the dry analog to receive the wet/dry mix 
you desire.  This is at least how it works on most digitech 
multi-effects.  I know the boss VG-8 and some Rocktron products use 
digital distortion, meaning the signal is converted to 1's and 0's before 
any distortion is added.

later:)

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Date: Fri Feb  7 17:20:46 1997
From: Gregorio Samsa 
Subject: Re: Pygmalion lyrics

Hi folks !!
I woudl like to know if somebody have the Pygmalion lyrics
that i was lookiung for some months ago ...

thanks,
G.Samsa.

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Date: Fri Feb  7 17:54:55 1997
From: Gregorio Samsa 
Subject: ETHEREAL-NOISE MIDIS !!!!

Hi there !!
does anybody have or know where are websites for get MIDI files from bands 
like Cocteau Twins or Slowdive ...??..i would like to know ..

Take Care.
G.Samsa.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:31:42 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

Forwarded: (please remember to send all messages to __avalyn@lysator.liu.se__ )

> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:59:16 -0500 (EST)
> From: Ed Hong 
> Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

> unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
> to click over and change sounds smoothly.

Could you tell me more about what you thought of the RP10?  I'm interested
because I was planning to buy an RP6 soon.  Thanks.

; ed

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:30:50 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: Silvania and FSA

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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:56:49 -0500
> From: Steven Venn 
> Subject: Re: Silvania and FSA

>I also have a question, around x-mas time there was talk on this list
>about some band called Sylviann or something? What is the proper
>spelling?

Do you mean Silvania? They are a Spanish Slowdive-ish kind of band
apparently with albums Miel Nube Hiel, En cielo de oceano, Delay Tambor
and Paisaje III. I stil have yet to see anything here in  the stores in
Toronto
on import. I think they are available from Hyperium though, but I  could
be wrong, anyone? I would love to order Paisaje as I've heard tons about
it and even a selection on a college radio show.

Steven

On Right Now - "Further" by Flying Saucer Attack
(if you liked Pygmalion then get it. The sound that a UFO makes)

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 22:52:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Melochrome@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: NEWS: Local Phone Company To Charge Per Minute For Internet Access

i think this deserves everyone's attention, pass it on to all you know...
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Forwarded message:
Date: 97-02-09 16:25:14 EST
From:	motts@catamaran.netwave.net (Daniel & Jennifer)
To:	dumdumdevil@mail.utexas.edu (Craig)
CC:	drathbun@nv.blm.gov (Dan Rathbun), davidd@netman.ci.aurora.co.us (David),
KERATH@aol.com (Grandma & Grandpa Rathbun), jslichte@odin.cair.du.edu
(Jenny), knesbit@dante.nmsu.edu (Ken), mtibbs@nmsu.edu (Mark @ Family),
umduggar@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Meredith), MHarris774@aol.com (Motts Mama),
pjordan@bmgmusic.com (Patrick@Dedicated), melochrome@aol.com (Pramod),
twoshoes@acadian.net (Regina/Robert), SPIFFINGNY@aol.com (Spiffing),
slichter@mscd.edu (Tina)

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> Date: Sunday, February 09, 1997 12:19:14 
> From: Richard Dib
> To: motts@catamaran.netwave.net
> Subject: NEWS: Local Phone Company To Charge Per Minute For Internet Access
> 
> Dear NETWave Customers:
> 
> Here are some news of interest to our customers.  If you which 
> send email to "isp@fcc.gov" with your comments.
> 
> NETWave Internet
> info@netwave.net
> ----------------------------------------
> For your information:
> 
> Local Phone Companies Want to Bill Internet Users.
> 
> This to inform you of a very important matter currently under review by the
> FCC.
> Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose
> per minute charges for your Internet service. They contend that your usage
> has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network. It is my belief
> that Internet usage will diminish if users were required to pay additional
> per minute charges. The FCC has created an
> email box for your comments, responses must be received by February 13,
> 1997. Send your comments to "isp@fcc.gov" and tell them what you think.
> Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to sneak it in
> just under the wire for litigation. Let everyone you know about this one.
> Get the e-mail address to everyone you can think of.

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Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:11:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Gage Crump 
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 chief@lysator.liu.se wrote:

>> unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
>> to click over and change sounds smoothly.
> 
> Could you tell me more about what you thought of the RP10?  I'm interested
> because I was planning to buy an RP6 soon.  Thanks.
> 
> ; ed

I have had an RP10 for about a year and a half. you can get some really
interesting sounds out of it, though this takes some playing around with
all the possible things to modulate. a couple of problems i have with it
are that 1.) as said before, it takes a second or so to switch from
channel to channel 2.) when i use a lot of delay or other effects in
large combinations the machine overrides and the sound gets distorted and
cut off in a bad way, there's this awful red light beeping all the time, i
always wish i could push the effects farther 3.) its hard to play with
things in real time as with separate pedals, you can't spin and tweak any
tangible knobs, so for this i use it in combination with other pedals like
delay. but on the plus side you can get a nice base  sound to fuck with
overtop of. but you might look into ones with more power... gage

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Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 21:45:00 -0800
From: Sweet Trip 
Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

>> unit. I use to have a Digitech RP10 but it just sucked when you wanted
>> to click over and change sounds smoothly.
> 
> Could you tell me more about what you thought of the RP10?  I'm interested
> because I was planning to buy an RP6 soon.  Thanks.
> 
> ; ed

The RP-10 is a rad unit for the money!  Spend the extra money to upgrade
to the RP-10 or RP-12.  It has more effects, more user programs, and a
more flexible foot controller section.  Overall, it's a more complete
processor than the RP-6.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:25:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Moonstar9@aol.com
Subject: Who is this band SPACE

hi,
for some reason i keep hearing about this band called SPACE.  i know
nothing about them so can someone please fill me in.  

thanks, 
Jared

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:38:18 -0500 (EST)
From: conspiracy? 
Subject: Re: Who is this band SPACE

SPACE:
I saw them on 120 last night.
Kinda boring loungy almost but-not-quite latin feel.  Kinda along the 
same vibe as the cardigans, but different enough to make them sound 
completly unlike that.

Last night I was thinking, "hmmm, SPACE, this could be cool."  But by the 
end, I was kinda just like mmmmmm.  

But that's just their single.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:34:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg Barker 
Subject: Re: Who is this band SPACE

I believe there is a band here in LA that goes by that name. My band was
using it until we found out there was another band with that name, they
were more punk than anything.

...Greg...

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:30:11 -0600
From: mps2@cec.wustl.edu (Michael Peter Stein)
Subject: kudos to Claire de Leon

I just wanted to tell the list not to hesitate ordering Silvania stuff thru
Claire de Leon.  I just got my DELAY TAMBOR CD in and it's pretty kickin'. I
really dig the Ae, Seefeel, and Locust.  I guess now I should check out the
original material.

-Mike

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Date: Mon Feb 10 14:43:30 1997
From: Gregorio Samsa 
Subject: Re: FWD: Silvania and FSA

> Do you mean Silvania? They are a Spanish Slowdive-ish kind of band

I was folllowing Silvania since some years ago , and i know that they are a 
peruvian band , not a spanish band ... But play in Spain .

Actually they are in ambient , but i think that it' definitely not the same 
feelings that make in me when listen them first works ..specially "En cielo de 
Oceano" /..definitely GREAT !!!!

cheers,
G. Samsa.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:39:10 -0700 (MST)
From: Knobslinger 
Subject: Re: Who is this band SPACE

Quite simply, Space are some Scouse band who aren't that great.

Jericho G Gozar jericho@U.Arizona.EDU

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:01:19 GMT -5
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA <932307@cenco.ulima.edu.pe>
Subject: Re: FWD: Silvania and FSA

>> I also have a question, around x-mas time there was talk on this list
>> about some band called Sylviann or something? What is the proper
>> spelling?
>
> Do you mean Silvania? They are a Spanish Slowdive-ish kind of band
> apparently with albums Miel Nube Hiel, En cielo de oceano, Delay Tambor
> and Paisaje III. I stil have yet to see anything here in  the stores in
> Toronto
> on import. I think they are available from Hyperium though, but I  could
> be wrong, anyone?

Yes silvania's stuff is not available from Hyperium records.

> I would love to order Paisaje as I've heard tons about
> it and even a selection on a college radio show.

I know most of the Silvania cds are carried by Slumberland. just visit
their homepage.

Regards.
Wilder.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:26:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: FWD: Silvania and FSA

> Do you mean Silvania? They are a Spanish Slowdive-ish kind of band
> apparently with albums Miel Nube Hiel, En cielo de oceano, Delay Tambor
> and Paisaje III. I stil have yet to see anything here in  the stores in
> Toronto
> on import. I think they are available from Hyperium though, but I  could
> be wrong, anyone? I would love to order Paisaje as I've heard tons about
> it and even a selection on a college radio show.

Hello everyone,

   I have placed two "special orders" for Silvania stuff through Elefant
previously. I will be doing a third sometime soon. I run a mailorder, but
for Silvania stuff, I have requested money up front, since Elefant won't
deal on consignment. If anyone is interested in ordering any Silvania
releases through me, please get in touch soon. Also, I have one copy of
Paisaje III that is extra that I can sell to the first customer! But for
anyone else interested, I will be doing the order. so just let me know.
Also, I have one extra copy of the Galax Trax 12" for sale right now.

The following stuff can be ordered:

-En Cielo de Oceano (more Cocteaus-like. Very "spanish-pop")
-Paisaje III (contender for one of the top 5 albums EVER! Combine the
              previous album with Slowdive, Seefeel, etc, and you have a
              masterpiece!)
-Delay Tambor (remix CD by the likes of Scorn, Seefeel, Locust, Scanner,
               and some others. Also contains 3 Silvania originals.)
-Avolovara 7" (re-working of a song from Paisaje III and an exclusive
track. In gorgeous packaging. Clear vinyl)
-galax Trax 12" (more re-mixes by Vanguard, Prozack, Locust, and Silvania)

Prices are:

CD - $15
LP - $11
7" - $4.50
12" - $6.50

Let me know!
Daniel

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 17:24:15 GMT -5
From: WILDER GONZALES AGREDA <932307@cenco.ulima.edu.pe>
Subject: Re: FWD: Silvania and FSA
 
>> Do you mean Silvania? They are a Spanish Slowdive-ish kind of band
>
> I was folllowing Silvania since some years ago , and i know that they are a 
> peruvian band , not a spanish band ... But play in Spain .

Absolutely true.
This is an entire Silvania's discography that appeared some months ago in
a spanish zine "spiral" with the ocassion of the release of the Delay Tambor.

    1. Silvana (demo) 1990
    2. Ave Sol (demo) 1990-91
    3. Miel Nube Hiel ep 1992.
    4. Formas de Abril (demo) 1992.
    5. En Cielo de Oceano cd 1993
    6. Paisaje III cd 1994
    7. Avalovara ep l996
    8. Delay Tambor cd 1996
    9. Galax Trax ep 1996
    
I'm desperately looking for the demos so if any of you have them please
e-mail me!! 

Regards.
Wilder.

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: FWD: Silvania and FSA

Does anyone know about a new Silvania 7" or an EP? I saw something in the
new Elefant newsletter which appears to be another "Elefant Dance
Recording" as part of a serious of about 4 EPs which all had similar
looking packaging. Forget the name though. Anyone know about this or when
it will be out? It wasn't mentioned in the catalog, and I can't read
Spanish, so I don't know what it says about it!

Daniel

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Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:15:01 +0100 (MET)
From: chief@lysator.liu.se
Subject: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

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> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:13:34 -0500 (EST)
> From: Wade A Settle 
> Subject: Re: FWD: effects pdls vs. units

ed,
  The RP-10, and the RP-5 have great effects, and you can layer as much 
as you want without anything sounding muddled.  However, I like stomp 
boxes because you are more in control of quick timing sounds.  They both 
have their good and bad sides.  The RP-10 has a wah-volume pedal, tons of 
sounds, british guitar, surf guitar, all that jazz.
wade

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