The Avalyn Digest Vol.1 Issue #19

The Avalyn Digest

Vol.1 #19

December 28th, 1996


There are 37 messages totalling 772 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. mojave 3 (2) 2. Slowdivish Bands (7) 3. some points (4) 4. chapterhouse (4) 5. Primal Scream (2) 6. slowdivish bands/An April March 7. a Slowdive sounding band (4) 8. chpterhouse (2) 9. SIANspheric? (3) 10. FWD: trade??? 11. good lord 12. Merry Christmans 13. CDs for trade 14. Merry Christmas !! 15. (Non-List info) (3) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 17:29:10 -0600 (CST) From: Zenki Subject: Re: mojave 3 > like "i stand by my lover, he stands by me.." wah? does this move anyone? It's "I stand by my lover as SHE stands by me." Your lyrics would be quite a different story. And although that particular line may not be astounding, every other line in that track is. -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 20:28:34 -0500 From: mdwalbur@student.berklee.edu (Matt Walburn/Summer Holiday) Subject: Re: mojave3 >well, i would say there's practically no chance of there being a >"slowdive-ish" song on the next mojave album....in my opinion, "ask me >tomorrow" was an excellent debut. >but then i also love stuff like nick drake, tim buckley, big star, leonard >cohen. at the same time there were a couple songs that were near plagiarism. >listen to "where is the love" along with cohen's "one of us cannot be wrong". >mojave totally swiped the vocal melody. > >anyway, my point is i think mojave will start to find there own niche in that >genre & start to be less derivative. i can't seem them going back to a >slowdive type of sound for a while. i believe "ask me tomorrow" sold more >than any slowdive record & that has got to be encouraging for them... I totally agree. "Ask Me Tomorrow" is FANTASTIC. Neil finally got back around to writing songs instead of sounds. And if the songs the performed of the Shaving the Pavement tour last summer serve as an indication of things to come... the next album will be even better! Matt Walburn ---------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 21:07:15 -0500 From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana) Subject: Re: Slowdivish Bands >Some cool slowdivish bands you might like to check out from canada are >Toronto's An April March, and Vancouver's Perfume Tree, also There is >this amazing band called SIANspheric who recently broke up but are one of >the coolest bands i've ever heard Umm...I wouldn't say An April March were Slowdivey...more like a slightly goth Cocteau Twins ----------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 22:24:13 -0800 From: Ian Chang Subject: some points whats up - a few points: 1. Anyone know anything about the Mercy single that Mojave were going to cut with an orchestra? It supposedly was to come out last June but nothing! Mercy is definitely the highpoint of the album for me. Love the acoustic version on the Shaving tape. 2.Can someone supply an Eternal discog? I have two Eternal tracks on the Glass Arcade comp. on Sarah. Nice kinda blend of Slowdive and indie-pop; is that Christian Saville on vocals ? 3. Morningrise has seemed to have been rereleased; its on the Siren Disc catalog 9.99 . Cheers to Creation! Maybe McGee'll rerelease those early Swervedriver singles next! Oh yah - introductions.. name's Ian, been a Slowdive nutter for the past five years or so. Got all the regular releases except for the In Mind remixes and that Live in Oslo boot (someone got an extra copy?). Never got to see the 'Dive live, but did manage to catch Mojave in Austin last April. Me and my mates caught Lush in Houston at the annual radio station alterna-fest in the afternoon, then drove 150 miles to Austin to catch the Shaving-the-Pavement-minus-Lush at the Electric Lounge. Got there at 11:00 pm, five minutes before Mojave came on! The band were excellent, but didn't the keyboard player look a little out-of-place! Was that Simon from Chapterhouse on 2nd guitar?! Excellent show - lets hope they'll come back again! on a related Chapterhouse note - anyone know about the 2CD best of from the Chappies? cheers Ian ----------------------------------- Date: 12 Dec 1996 22:45:04 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: chapterhouse the 2 disc compilation is out now in Japan and the US is next! ----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 02:18:21 +0500 From: susan marie mcgowan Subject: re: slowdivish bands >Umm...I wouldn't say An April March were Slowdivey...more like a slightly >goth Cocteau Twins ummm...no, i don't completely agree...they have a few tracks, specifically 'maiden pinks', 'the red dots', and 'array', which are very 'slowdivey' (and incredible); and even tho' some of the music is 'cocteaus-esque', the vocals sound *nothing* like liz fraser's. (goth??? methinks not!) just my two cents'... ----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 02:22:48 +0500 From: susan marie mcgowan Subject: re: some points ian wrote... > on a related Chapterhouse note - anyone know about the 2CD > best of from the Chappies? yup. it's officially out now on dedicated (but i don't know where to find it here in the states...) ------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 06:41:33 -0500 From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana) Subject: re: slowdivish bands >>Umm...I wouldn't say An April March were Slowdivey...more like a slightly >>goth Cocteau Twins > >ummm...no, i don't completely agree...they have a few tracks, specifically >'maiden pinks', 'the red dots', and 'array', which are very 'slowdivey' (and >incredible); and even tho' some of the music is 'cocteaus-esque', the vocals >sound *nothing* like liz fraser's It was the music rather than the vocals that I was getting at. Stuff like "Scarlett Bliss", right down to the bass sound. Anyway, I don't really care for them. Danella was very snooty to a friend of mine for no particular reason. They're not especially liked in their hometown anyway. > (goth??? methinks not!) just my two cents'... Not goth in sound, but have you *seen* what they look like? Or the T-shirts they sell? ------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 06:41:49 -0500 From: larry@interlog.com (superbacana) Subject: Re: some points >whats up - > > a few points: > > 1. Anyone know anything about the Mercy single > that Mojave were going to cut with an orchestra? It > supposedly was to come out last June but nothing! Mercy > is definitely the highpoint of the album for me. Love > the acoustic version on the Shaving tape. That's been shelved (permanently, I think) > 2.Can someone supply an Eternal discog? I have two Eternal > tracks on the Glass Arcade comp. on Sarah. Nice kinda > blend of Slowdive and indie-pop; is that Christian Saville > on vocals ? I think those were the only two songs (A and B sides of a single). They recorded some more stuff, but the nerds at Sarah turned it down. Then Christian was asked to help out with some band called Slowdive... > The band were excellent, but didn't the keyboard player look > a little out-of-place! Was that Simon from Chapterhouse on > 2nd guitar?! Yes. ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 23:45:46 +1100 From: Donald Chin Subject: re: Chapterhouse hi all, At 2:22 AM +0500 13/12/96, susan marie mcgowan wrote: > ian wrote... > > on a related Chapterhouse note - anyone know about the 2CD > > best of from the Chappies? > > yup. it's officially out now on dedicated (but i don't know where to find it > here in the states...) well, here are more details... Chapterhouse : Rownderbowt (28 trx/Double CD Dedicated-025 DCD) it costs US$25.50 from parasol records or i haven't ordered it, but i plan to. regards, donald -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:45:54 -0500 (EST) From: Claire De Leon! Subject: Primal Scream I spotted 2 OLD Primal Scream CDs at the local shop used for not very much money. One was on Creation and quite old as far as I could tell and was $15 (kinda a lot used!) and the other was on some other label but was from '87 or so - pretty old, and I think the title was "Early Primal Scream" or something like that. My point leads to this question: Is this stuff good? I mean, as far as I'm concerned, Primal Scream hit it dead on the nose with Higher Than the Sun. Is this older stuff anything like HTTS, or is it poppy, or how is it? Just wondering... Daniel ------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 10:05:12 -0500 From: Steve Willett Subject: Re: slowdivish bands/An April March > It was the music rather than the vocals that I was getting at. Stuff like > "Scarlett Bliss", right down to the bass sound. Hmmm. 'Scarlett Bliss'... that would be the single form the first disc they released back in ..... 1989 or 1990 ??? As most good bands do, AAM have grown considerably. You may want to judge them on something relatively recent (then again you may NOT want to). Try the Bedazzled web-site at www.bedazzled.com for some recent sounds. > Not goth in sound, but have you *seen* what they look like? Or the T-shirts > they sell? Isn't the point here ..... what they SOUND like. They are musicians not videos. Steve ---------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 10:06:46 -0500 (EST) From: Claire De Leon! Subject: Re: some points > on a related Chapterhouse note - anyone know about the 2CD > best of from the Chappies? > Yup - it's out. And available through Parasol. $25 though...a bit much, eh? Daniel --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 09:57:55 +0000 From: Ian Pollard Subject: a Slowdive sounding band I'm kind of suprised that no-one has mentioned them yet but Blueboy aren't entirely disimilar from Slowdive. On tracks like the excellent single 'River' they are equally blissed out. Although they have slimmed down to just a two-piece now they did have a boy/girl singing thing going on for a while. Their latest single on Shinkansen is rather good, with some nice string sounds. Alot of their earlier releases are still available on Sarah Records (through Shinkansen). Ian Pollard ------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 11:55:00 -0500 From: Melochrome@aol.com Subject: Re: Chapterhouse i picked up the Chapterhouse compilation a week ago. personally, i was quite disappointed with it. their version of "rain" is quite interesting for those who haven't heard it already (it sounds quite a bit like Ride). but the 2nd disc is comprised mostly of demos (which i think are pretty mediocre) there is a Spacemen 3 cover and "Die Die Die" which are pretty rare tracks. i just don't think Chapterhouse were all that talented (apart from "Pearl" which is brilliant). needless to say, i might be selling it if anyone's interested. email me.... --------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:01:17 -0500 From: Melochrome@aol.com Subject: Re: Primal Scream the older Primal Scream lp's don't sound anything like higher than.... or anything of screamadelica. when primal scream first started, the 2 main songwriters were Bobby Gillespie & Jim Beattie. after those lp's Jim left & as he wrote the music the style changed dramatically. anyway, the sound on those 2 lp's was poppy & very Beatles-esque and bobby's vocal style was more in that vein as well. when Beattie left, he started a new band called Spirea X (named after a primal song) & they put out an lp on 4ad (Fireblade Skies) and a pretty excellent single (Chlorine Dream). he started a new band called Adventures in Stereo, or something... ---------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:15:17 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Baker Subject: re: slowdivish bands for everyone on the list who were subjected to some narrow-minded trash talking directed to Toronto's An April March.... PAY NO MIND! i think i can loosely call Danella from the band a friend, and i speak to her enough to tell all of you that there are great people making brilliant music. for any one interested, they are signed to BEDAZZLED RECORDS in Washington D.C and tour rather regularly state-side.... that is why they focus on their "hometown" a little less (i am assuming). Another band on Bedazzled, THE CURTAIN SOCIETY are also worthy to be mentioned on this list; they have just released a new album. i not connected to the label or anything, but it's full of great music; i would dare to call it the 4ad of North America as far as style goes... if any one intereseted has trouble finding information, drop me a line and i'll try to help ya out. contact An April March at: aam@passport.ca cheers ---------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:28:27 -0600 (CST) From: "sara johnson" Subject: Re: a Slowdive sounding band I just ordered a cd by the band shiFt (a folding sieve) which is absolutly gorgeous. I don't really know what to compare it to though...hmmm...i'm not very good at this. male/female vox, kinda noisy-but nothing like mbv. i can't describe it any better than that, but i would highly reccomend it. sara ------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 96 13:35:58 -0500 From: Jeff Birgbauer Subject: Re: Chapterhouse >i just don't think Chapterhouse were all that talented What?!?!? you're crazy. Chapterhouse's debut is a CLASSIC. If you missed out on early tracks by them, buy the new 2CD comp. I recommend this to true Chapterhouse die hearts for the 2nd disc. The first disc is GREAT if you missed out on the early singles. ------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 13:50:02 -0500 (EST) From: Wet Wet Mark Subject: re: slowdivish bands > for everyone on the list who were subjected to some narrow-minded > trash talking directed to Toronto's An April March.... PAY NO MIND! I'll drink to that. > Another band on Bedazzled, THE CURTAIN SOCIETY are also worthy to > be mentioned on this list; they have just released a new album. > i not connected to the label or anything, but it's full of great > music; i would dare to call it the 4ad of North America as far as style > goes... And to this. Curtain Society, from what I've heard is damn good and fits into this list quite well. Check them out if you can. --------------------------------- Date: 13 Dec 1996 11:04:22 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: chpterhouse > Chapterhouse : Rownderbowt (28 trx/Double CD Dedicated-025 DCD) > > it costs US$25.50 from parasol records > or is this the only place it will be available at? it won't be in stores? ----------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 14:02:42 +0500 From: susan marie mcgowan Subject: re: slowdivish bands greetings everyone... okay, regarding an april march, i was just taking their music into account; i have never seen them live, so therefore i wouldn't know about those other external factors... another band on bedazzled (see http://www.iuma.com/bedazzled/) definitely worth mentioning is ultracherry violet--sort of a hokie name, but their album 'i fall to pieces' is quite good, and the track 'i think you're lying to me' is nothing short of amazing! just another two cents' of mine... ------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 16:00:52 -0500 From: Maston@aol.com Subject: Re: slowdivish bands As someone who has lived in the Boston area, I have seen the curtain society live three times, and I must say that I have never been so bored at a show before. One of the most mismatched performances was the Curtain society opening for the legendary pink dots. I found their songs to all be repetitive and relatively the same. However, since I have heard only one song on a compilation, I have no idea how they sound "dead". none too thrilled with bedazzled, Jason ---------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 18:48:34 -0500 From: avalyn@chesco.com Subject: Re: a Slowdive sounding band At 09:57 AM 12/13/96 +0000, you wrote: > >I'm kind of suprised that no-one has mentioned them yet but Blueboy >aren't entirely disimilar from Slowdive. On tracks like the excellent >single 'River' they are equally blissed out. Although they have slimmed >down to just a two-piece now they did have a boy/girl singing thing >going on for a while. Their latest single on Shinkansen is rather good, >with some nice string sounds. Alot of their earlier releases are still >available on Sarah Records (through Shinkansen). Blueboy sounds like slowdive? Hmm don't really agree. River doesn't even really sound slowdivey at all. Just my opinion. bye ryan ---------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 03:18:53 -0500 From: Srilank@aol.com Subject: Re: a Slowdive sounding band > I'm kind of suprised that no-one has mentioned them yet but Blueboy > aren't entirely disimilar from Slowdive. On tracks like the excellent > single 'River' they are equally blissed out. Although they have slimmed > down to just a two-piece now they did have a boy/girl singing thing > going on for a while. Their latest single on Shinkansen is rather good, > with some nice string sounds. Alot of their earlier releases are still > available on Sarah Records (through Shinkansen). ...there are *some* Blueboy tracks that indulge in ambient soundscapes, but for the most part they are infectious twee acoustic pop ~ which in their case works out beautifully. Blueboy have consistently put out stellar stuff IMO, but as for continously close connections to the Slowdive sound -- I would have to disagree. Post-demise Sarah labelmates Secret Shine, on the other hand, almost blatently stole the sound (only to a lower-fi finished product) The "loveblind" ep *is* a Soulvaki-era Slowdive incarnate single if there ever was one :) btw, does anyone know what Secret Shine is doing now? jason onnow: Seely - Julie only srilank@aol.com --------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Dec 1996 23:54:29 +1100 From: Donald Chin Subject: Re:chpterhouse hi, At 11:04 AM -0800 13/12/96, avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com wrote: > Chapterhouse : Rownderbowt (28 trx/Double CD Dedicated-025 DCD) > it costs US$25.50 from parasol records > or > > is this the only place it will be available at? it won't be in stores? that's where i saw it listed. i use parasol records as a mail order service quite often. i am sure it will be everywhere. regards, donald -------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:26:08 +0100 From: "Igor V. Boronenkov" Subject: SIANspheric? Hello all, with the recent mention of SIANspheric- could, anybody, please, provide some more or less clear description of their sound? (I know, it's difficult s/times) Availability of CD (address of the band, maybe)? Thanks in advance. salute Boroda ----------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:12:46 -0500 (EST) From: butterfly mcqueen Subject: Re: SIANspheric? don't pay any attention to the slowdive references, they aren't really valid. you'll hear a lot that they're like early verve, which is sort of right. their sound is very lush, reverby, and spaced out, but the songs in general aren't as solid as verve's. out of the ten songs on the album, two or three strike me as great; there are about three bad seeds in there -- they can get kind of corny at times. borrow someone's copy and listen to it first, that's what i would recommend. available $12 ppd from: sonic unyon records canada p.o.box 57347 jackson station hamilton, ontario, canada L8P 4X2 ------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Dec 1996 15:24:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Luis B. Abcede" Subject: Re: SIANspheric? Also visit http://www.sonicunyon.com Just follow the links to their page. They've even got a short soundclip. Luis ------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 07:18:01 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: FWD: trade??? Forwarded message (sorry about the delay, but I'm graduating in two days): > Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 12:08:44 CST > From: Timmer > Subject: Re: trade??? > > I've been a Slowdive fan for about two years now and STILL do not have all > their material! I know some people say that they have no trouble finding > stuff out there; maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place... :P Anyway, I > was wondering if anyone out there is looking for the 5ep (in mind remixes). > I have an extra copy and would be willing to trade for any of the 4 eps I > need: > > Slowdive EP > Blueday EP > 5 EP > Holding Our Breath EP > > Anyone??? :) Anyone know where I could find one if nobody wants to > trade??? Thanks... > > Tim ------------------------------------- Date: 18 Dec 1996 23:21:36 PST From: avalyn@wgserv.baudtown.com Subject: good lord ..5ep is good..but not $20 worth because you can definitely find it for $10 elsewhere..it's not as rare as other eps.. on another note..avalyn.. "avilyn" appears on cassette tapes "aralyn" is some whitewolf stuff i think but i doubt they have anything to do with avalyn --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:28:17 -0500 From: Moonstar9@aol.com Subject: Merry Christmans just wanted to say Merry Christmas and Happy New Year...i know this is early but i am going away... love, Jared -------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 23:43:49 -0500 From: John Brown Subject: CDs for trade >Noticing a few post by people sell their discs, here's a list of discs I am looking to trade. > >I will trade any of the following for anything by the bands: > >Cocteau Twins, Felt, Echo and the Bunneymen/ Electrafixion, Galaxie 500, Joy Division, Strangelove, My Bloody Valentine (CDEps, good trades on any pre-Creation stuff-you can basically choose whatever you want in exchange), Slowdive, Seefeel, Spacemen 3 (+ EAR, Spectrum, Spiritualized...), Dead Can Dance > >Stuff to trade (used) > >Bauhaus - 1979-1981 volume 1 >David Bowie - Lots of stuff on Rykodisc >The Velvet Underground - Boxed Set >Pulp - His 'n Hers > - Different Class >Jesus and the Mary Chain > Barbed Wire Kisses > Honey's Dead > Peel Sessions > Automatic > Stoned and Dethroned >The Jam - several titles >Public Image Ltd. - Second Edition >The Charltans UK - several titles >The Soft Boys - 1976-81 >Robyn Hitchcock - Black Snake Diamond Role > >If interested please email me privately -------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:34:54 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: loveless Subject: Merry Christmas !! Merry christmas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | * :) *** ** *** ** **** *** *** **** saludos!!! ******* ||| ||| David/ --------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 96 16:06:20 -0500 From: Jeff Birgbauer Subject: (Non-List info) Anyone ever deal with CD Bonzai? Are they reliable? thanks Jeff ---------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 15:51:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Luis B. Abcede" Subject: Re: (Non-List info) Non-list info ... heh, very sneaky I know what you're looking at, but I've never dealt with CD Banzai before. Why don't you be the guinea pig? ;) Luis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:52:02 -0500 From: Srilank@aol.com Subject: Re: (Non-List info) > Anyone ever deal with CD Bonzai? Are they reliable? > > thanks > Jeff cd bonzain deals in *alot* of bootlegs. They receive a good selection of shows, but be warned, they take forever in delivering the goods. I placed an order, waited a month, called, faxed, called again, got a response, waited another two weeks, called again - and finally a week later received the cd I wanted. So, if the time factor has no bearing on things, then I would say o.k., but if you like to have cd's delivered to you (after eons waiting) and without having to do their invoice busy work then I would steer clear. jason --------------------------------- End of The Avalyn Digest #1.19 ******************************
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