The Avalyn Digest Vol.1 Issue #01

The Avalyn Digest

Vol.1 #01

Feb 12, 1996


There are 50 messages totalling 1250 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Welcome to the Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List! 2. My first post 3. "Slowdive" EP 4. Slowdive promo (x3) 5. hey.. (5) 6. Test + Slowdive 1st EP 7. Discographies 8. First posting+live+pygmalion (4) 9. First Post ! Tour dates 10. hello 11. Mojave 3 Mentioned! 12. think of Mojave 3? 13. DJ only promos 14. Dreampop-L (3) 15. if you can't find Mojave 3... 16. Mojave 3 European Tour (2) 17. Slowdive - Pygmalion 18. Mojave 3 - old stuff live? (2) 19. HNIA bashing 20. Swervedriver / Slowdive connection 21. And remember... 22. Slowdive discography v1.9 23. slowdive EPs/Blue Day 24. name a question (3) 25. Mojave3 in Brussels ? (2) 26. Creation/Sony 27. mohave3 in print 28. European Tour This Summer 29. mojave in america? slowdive again? 30. Love songs on promo (2) 31. Mojave live US 32. t-shirts 33. List Statistics [07-Feb-96] 34. ~so slow~ 35. blah --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:44:11 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Welcome to the Slowdive & Mojave 3 Mailing List! THE 960114 ###### ## ###### ## ## ##### ###### ## ## ###### ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ## ###### ## ## ## ## # ## ## ## ## ## ## #### ## ## ## ## ####### ## ## ## ## ## ## ###### ###### ###### ## ## ##### ###### ## ###### & Mojave 3 Mailing List Avalyn Welcome to the list! The Slowdive & Mojave 3 mailing list was made to cater for the discussions about the (no longer active) Creation band Slowdive and the (active) 4AD band Mojave 3 from the UK, as well as being a distribution list for the Internet Slowdive and Mojave 3 Discographies. The instructions for this list are the same as most mailing lists: * To subscribe, unsubscribe, request digests, etc. E-mail: avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se * To send a message to the list E-mail: avalyn@lysator.liu.se * To reach the owner of the list. E-mail: chief@lysator.liu.se, or owner-avalyn@lysator.liu.se The Slowdive Digest ------------------- is not a daily digest, rather it is made and sent out to the digest subscribers when the size of collected messages from the "live" list reach about 40-45k. If you want to subscribe to the Digest version, please use the avalyn-request@lysator.liu.se address and state that you would like to subscribe to the Digest. * Back issue of the digest can be found in HTML format at: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html ASCII format at: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn Once again, welcome to the list! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:57:17 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: My first post Hi you all! As you might know, I'm the one running the mailing list, and I would just like to say hi to everyone now in the beginning of it all. Hi! There. :-) Anyway, I'm Erik, I'm from Sweden, Europe, and I've been a Slowdive fan ever since I first heard the "Slowdive" EP. My record collection does not include all their albums, singles and EPs unfortunately, though I've tried to find them, there's a couple missing. :-( This mailing list is one out of seven than I've been crazy enough to admin, so please remember when contacting me for some admin stuff, to state which mailing list you're talking about. It can be a bit of a hassle trying to figure that out otherwise. Thanks! The Slowdive & Mojave discography is another project, and I'm well aware that it's about time I updated them, so that will be my first job, hopefully with your help. If you don't have the discography, please let me know, and I'll email you a copy. I haven't met the whole band. Only Neil and Simon, when they played here in Sweden for the last time in February 1993, but they were really really nice, and we chatted for a while. I'd love to hear stories from you folks meeting the band! Well, I guess that's it for my first post, and I hope you can all enjoy and use this mailing list for all the money it's worth. :-) Hopefully, we'll get the band (Mojave 3 that is) onto this list in the near future, as they are connected to the net, but who knows, right? Stay safe, //Erik Soderstrom (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 20:12:10 -0800 (PST) From: Micah Newman Subject: "Slowdive" EP Hi everyone, I was just wondering if anyone by chance had an extra copy of the "Slowdive" EP they'd be willing to sell. I have a copy of "Blue Day" but I love Slowdive and am a completist and need to have the song "Avalyn II"! Oh, another thing: speaking of being a completist, I would also like to get the Beach Song/Take Me Down flexi, but I don't have a turntable... so if there's someone who has it and would be willing to tape it for me if I send you a tape, please get in touch with me! Thanks very much... ----------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:37:39 +0000 From: KEITH_O\'LEARY@Non-HP-UnitedKingdom-om2.om.hp.com Subject: Slowdive promo (x3) Item Subject: cc:Mail Text Hi I just remembered... I've got some DJ only promos (never played) on 12 inch vinyl of a SLowdive EP (Sorry - I can't remember which one. I'll check tonight when I get home) I'm short of cash so if anyone would like to make me an offer. I might be willing to make a swap. Keith ---------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: "[spiral]" <99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu> Subject: hey.. hey kids... with the death of dreampop-l and mbv i hope that this will be a coolio place to catch up on noise 'n schtuff... somebody say hello so i can figure out whos on here... bye.spiral ps. for slowdive lyrics, please mail me with a subject of: slowdive lyrics (pretty creative eh?) ----------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:47:20 -0800 (PST) From: Micah Newman Subject: Re: hey.. On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, [spiral] wrote: > hey kids... > with the death of dreampop-l and mbv > i hope that this will be a coolio place to > catch up on noise 'n schtuff... somebody say hello > so i can figure out whos on here... bye.spiral Hey, what happened to the mbv list, anyway? I went home for Christmas, came back and tried to resub, but the list doesn't seem to exist anymore. Under what circumstances did its demise take place? ---------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:59:11 -0800 (PST) From: elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu (Elvia M. Tarango) Subject: Re: hey.. Hello, I just joined the list a few days ago. I really like Slowdive's stuff, but the recent Mojave 3 release just doesn't make the mark. I feel the production and just plain "good song" category just isn't there. I don't know. Maybe I should listen to the album a few more times as I just bought it today at the domestic price (poor and cheap is my name). I curious, what do the fellow 'Divers think about my review. ================================================== Communicating from the corner of 5th and Vermouth Fred/Derf Collins (c/o elvia@uclink3.berkley.edu) ---------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:26:18 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Test + Slowdive 1st EP I second that request for the first Slowdive EP "Slowdive". My copy of the fine thing is the Swervedriver "Raise" misprint, so I have yet to find the real one. :-( I'd also like to take this opportunity to say hello to all the new list members that were added today! Though there's a tough match between the number of "live list" and "digest list" subscribers, I hope we can get this list running at top speed. Noticed also that some people on the 4AD-L list thought it was a bad idea starting this list, ie. the "now when they're signed to 4AD - they get their own list" - thingie. Well, I don't think it's a bad idea (of course), and it's not just because they've been signed to 4AD, which I think all of you out there agree with me on. It's because they were Slowdive! And they should have gotten their own list YEARS ago! Well, that's what _I_ think. ;) //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ---------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 06:56:12 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Discographies Back again! :-) Just wanted to say that the Discographies for both bands are now available on the WWW. The Mojave 3 one is version 0.1 (January 17th, 1996) only, so don't expect too much from it :-). The Slowdive one is version 1.9 (newly updated on January 17th, 1996). Slowdive - http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/slowdive.html Mojave 3 - http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/mojave3.html (there are links to these pages from the Slowdive & Mojave Digest page - http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html - as well.) Of course they're also available in ASCII format, though at the moment only by letting me know through email that you want them. That is - email me (chief@lysator.liu.se) with requests, and you'll have the info in your mailbox ASAP. Oh, and let me know if you want me to post the discographies to the list. The Mojave 3 one is pretty small, but the Slowdive is about 30k. Time to hit the sack, //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:14:49 -0800 (PST) From: Micah Newman Subject: Re: hey.. I'd have to agree with you... I've heard a few of the songs, and for the most part they sound pretty contrived to me, especially "Love Songs On The Radio". Maybe I'd have to hear the whole album to 'get it', but it's not at the top of my list of things to buy yet. I'm on this list for Slowdive!!! (no matter what almighty e and Jens have to say) --------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 10:17:21 +0000 From: Jon Kvebaek Subject: Re: hey.. [spiral] wrote: > hey kids... > with the death of dreampop-l and mbv > i hope that this will be a coolio place to > catch up on noise 'n schtuff... somebody say hello > so i can figure out whos on here... bye.spiral > > ps. for slowdive lyrics, please mail > me with a subject of: slowdive lyrics > (pretty creative eh?) Hey man...I'm here :) Ye know, that fsa (further) was gone...guess you have it by now anyway. Sorry about that. I'll make it up to ye somehow. So - slowdive...guess Mojave 3 goes as well. Probably not news to most of ye, but did you know that (and this is snarfed off the 4AD site, http://www.iuma.com/4AD) Rachel, who suffered a ruptured eardrum on a flight from LA to NY before the holidays, has had a good recovery. Mojave plans a European and US tour in spring '96. -- Jon Kvebaek ------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:34:47 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: First posting+live+pygmalion Well, i don't know if i'm the first to post anything on this list (what an honour!), but i think it could be apt to introduce ourselves, since we're sort of "founding members from the very beginning". I began listening to SD when I saw Morningrise on 120 Minutes. I went to 3 of their gigs here in Sweden 92, and also their show in Stockholm 93. All of them really good, esp the 92 ones. Maybe i'm a dork, but i haven't bought Pygmalion. Can anyone give a short review? I'll shut up now, Jan Sundstrom -------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 12:57:15 +0000 From: KEITH_O\'LEARY@Non-HP-UnitedKingdom-om2.om.hp.com Subject: First Post ! Tour dates Item Subject: First posting+live+pygmalion Hi, I didn't know Mojave3 had such a following in Sweden! Does anyone know of any tour dates? I am dying to see what they sound like - do you think they will play the 'old stuff'? Keith hpwkol@aeilogis.com ------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:53:43 +0000 From: Jon Kvebaek Subject: Re: First posting+live+pygmalion Jan Sundstrom wrote: > Maybe i'm a dork, but i haven't bought Pygmalion. Can anyone give a short > review? Yes, you're a dork. Buy it now... Review and review. It's brilliant. None of the washy guitars on e.g. Souvlaki. But still guitars, more of a minimalistic piece... Some folks thought this was ambient stuff, but 'tis not. I think e(? - go on, post it again...it was brill.) described it as a guitar album...and I can agree to some extent. However, it's one of the best albums ever to be released. Just found a post I actually saved(!) (nice one Jens), where he describes it like this: Slowdive "Pygmalion" --The wall of effects stripped bare into long, bleak soundscapes. Best use of the echo box as instrument since God knows when. Which more or less is what I was trying to say. Cheers, -- Jon Kvebaek ------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:03:34 -0500 From: Pezdom@aol.com Subject: hello hey! i am new to the list and i must say it's about time there is a list devoted to slowdive and (mojave 3 of course) i think everything by slowdive is amazing and i was skeptical about mojave 3, but it is superb as well. i guess whatever rachel and neil do is bound to be great, eh? so when are mojave 3 going to be touring?? (sorry if these topics hav been discussed before..) -nicole ----------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:07:46 -0800 (PST) From: elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu (Elvia M. Tarango) Subject: Re: First posting+live+pygmalion At 1:53 PM 1/18/96, Jon Kvebaek wrote: >Jan Sundstrom wrote: >> Maybe i'm a dork, but i haven't bought Pygmalion. Can anyone give a short >> review? > >Yes, you're a dork. Buy it now... Review and review. It's brilliant. >None of the washy guitars on e.g. Souvlaki. But still guitars, more of a >minimalistic piece... Some folks thought this was ambient stuff, but >'tis not. I think e(? - go on, post it again...it was brill.) described >it as a guitar album...and I can agree to some extent. However, it's one >of the best albums ever to be released. You are not a dork. WARNING,WARNING. If this person is talking about einexile's review...be careful. Slowdive is defintely a strange band to place in pigeon hole. I feel they will defintely comeout with a great album again...but Mojave 3's freshman's attempt just doesn't make the mark. If you have some money to blow...buy Pygmalion. I haven't heard it myself and will not buy it until I see it in the used section at a deep discount. I'm cheap! Fred/Derf Collins (c/o elvia@uclink3.berkley.edu) --------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:13:44 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Mojave 3 Mentioned! Finally! Mojave 3 was mentioned in the Swedish morning paper Svenska Dagbladet's friday edition "City" today! They were listed under a column they call "records that weren't reviewed 1995" that is written by reviewer Stefan Malmqvist. He writes: "The cover looks monkey-boring, so that's probably the reason why such a gem like Ask Me Tomorrow by Mojave 3 was overlooked. Here we have beautiful valium-country in the spirit of Cowboy Junkies, Mazzy Star, Drugstore and Tarnation." Well that's it. Short and sweet. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:08:47 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: think of Mojave 3? On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, elvia@uclink3.berkeley.edu (Elvia M. Tarango) wrote: > Hello, I just joined the list a few days ago. I really like Slowdive's > stuff, but the recent Mojave 3 release just doesn't make the mark. I feel > the production and just plain "good song" category just isn't there. I > don't know. Maybe I should listen to the album a few more times as I just > bought it today at the domestic price (poor and cheap is my name). I > curious, what do the fellow 'Divers think about my review. I haven't been able to find anything with Mojave 3 yet! I asked at the local "indie" record store about a month ago, and the guy who's in contact with 4AD just said "who? how do you spell that? They haven't said anything about that." So I have yet to find it. I've seen the "Love Songs On The Radio" video though. Pretty Mazzy Star-ish, but I won't say anything more, until I get the album. :-) //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:08:10 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: DJ only promos On Wed, 17 Jan 96, KEITH_O\'LEARY@Non-HP-UnitedKingdom-om2.om.hp.com wrote: > Hi > I just remembered... I've got some DJ only promos (never played) on > 12 inch vinyl of a SLowdive EP (Sorry - I can't remember which one. > I'll check tonight when I get home) Keith! I would be _very_ interested in getting info about those DJ promos for the discography! Could you type in the information from them? Thanks! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------- Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 06:08:26 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Dreampop-L On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, <99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu> wrote: > hey kids... > with the death of dreampop-l and mbv i hope that this will be a coolio > place to catch up on noise 'n schtuff... What? Dreampop-L died? When did that happen? And why? Have I been sending messages to that list for nothing? //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------ Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:35:08 -0800 (PST) From: Donna Feddern Subject: if you can't find Mojave 3... For those of you out there who haven't been able to track down the Mojave 3 record...one way you can get it is ordering it through the Internet. If you telnet to "cdconnection.com" you can order it from there using a credit card. The price listed is $13.34. I'm sure there is a way to order it from 4AD as well, but I don't have any addresses for that. Donna ----------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 14:40:39 -0500 (EST) From: "[spiral]" <99lear@lab.cc.wmich.edu> Subject: Re: Dreampop-L On Sat, 20 Jan 1996 chief@lysator.liu.se wrote: > What? Dreampop-L died? When did that happen? And why? Have I been > sending messages to that list for nothing? i dont know.. i thought so..has anyone else gotten mail?? spiral --------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 14:41:56 -0600 From: joroses@mail.utexas.edu (goo goo goo joob) Subject: Re: Dreampop-L tito (not the man) scribblied: --On Sat, 20 Jan 1996 chief@lysator.liu.se wrote: --> What? Dreampop-L died? When did that happen? And why? Have I been --> sending messages to that list for nothing? -- --i dont know.. i thought so..has anyone else gotten mail?? --spiral i apologize if this has already been covered; i'm behind on some mail (one week into school and already...) anyway, the dreampop-l has been down along with the mbv and sound lists since zeek's t1 service turned back into a pumpkin. last i heard the mbv list was going to go back up but i haven't checked evan's web site lately so i don't know if it's really up or not. taking the beatles anthology back to the store *sigh* .j. i think this list is a tad superfluous but as slowdive are my third favorite band, i still have to sub. ----------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 15:28:38 -0600 From: joroses@mail.utexas.edu (goo goo goo joob) Subject: Re: First posting+live+pygmalion hi. i like slowdive. a lot. i have spent the last three months wondering why the hell i didn't listen to souvlaki very much when it first came out because it is pure brill, if i may use that term. slowdive are my thirdfavorite band, behind verve and the beatles. must be all the rain over there that causes you brits to come up with such amazing music. i dunno. anyway, i heard just for a day in newbury comics in boston when it first came out and bought it on the spot, and that was that. wfnx also played 'catch the breeze' occasionally. i still have the sticker somewhere from jfad that said with this music you don't need drugs or something or other like that. i am still looking to hear a copy of the live tape they used to sell when they toured (brendon?) definitely pick up pygmalion and put it on when it's raining. i know i keep saying this but it's the truth. i might be selling my cd or vinyl copy soon if i keep going to record stores when i should be saving for music equipment. if only god could beam me down a mint collection of all the beatles lp's so i don't have to pay high reissue prices for good vinyl... excuse my lop-eared prose. i played with stereo flanging last night and i think it's fried my brain. .j. ------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:14:30 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Mojave 3 European Tour On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Jon Kvebaek wrote: > Mojave plans a European and US tour in spring '96. I heard that they will tour the US with Lush and Scheer in April, but I haven't heard a word about a European tour. Any dates / countries / cities / venues planned yet? I would *love* to see them! //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:15:07 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Slowdive - Pygmalion On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) wrote: > Maybe i'm a dork, but i haven't bought Pygmalion. Can anyone give a short > review? and then Jon Kvebaek replied: > Yes, you're a dork. Buy it now... Review and review. It's brilliant. > None of the washy guitars on e.g. Souvlaki. But still guitars, more of a > minimalistic piece... Some folks thought this was ambient stuff, but > 'tis not. I would call it Ambient in the sense that it's really a "floating" album. Just listen to the first track, "Rutti" - a dreamy guitar together with Neil's dreamy, almost whispering voice, with a lot of air between the 'pieces' that make out the first 3 minutes of the song. And the rest of it's 10 minutes are just as dreamy, soft picking guitars, 'swooshy' hi-hat, pillow-covered bass drum, Neil's voice echoing beyond the edge of the earth, all of it pounding like a faint heartbeat. I picture myself on a long straight road in the middle of one of those US desert-type-o-places, driving along in my cabriolet, not a cloud in the sky, when I listen to it. 'Crazy For You', the second track, is just as "soft". 6 minutes without a hard edge but something that sounds like an electrical charge once or twice. Dreamy, echoing voices. 'Miranda' with it's lonely acoustic guitar, Rachel's dreamy eerie voice, effects zooming from left to right.. Well, I'll stop now. I'd call it ambient, but not the 'dance'-type of ambient that also is out there. It's different, but I like it. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:15:33 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Mojave 3 - old stuff live? On Thu, 18 Jan 96, KEITH_O\'LEARY@Non-HP-UnitedKingdom-om2.om.hp.com wrote: > I am dying to see what they sound like - do you think they will play the > 'old stuff'? I seriously doubt it, though I would be really really happy if they did. :) //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 00:46:47 -0500 From: Windblows@aol.com Subject: Re: Mojave 3 - old stuff live? hey all..?? what old stuff...theyve only been together since the break up--are you talking as in " slowdive" old stuff?????? yes yes yes ...i hope so, : -) , but to be pessimistic... .i doubt it as well... : ( ~wind~ ---------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:17:17 +0100 From: Str\vm Subject: Re: Mojave 3 European Tour chief@lysator.liu.se wrote: > I heard that they will tour the US with Lush and Scheer in April, but > I haven't heard a word about a European tour. Any dates / countries / > cities / venues planned yet? I would *love* to see them! well, I donŽt know the exact dates and places, but take a look at the 4ad site (http://www.iuma.com/4ad/) and youŽll find information. But....no..I donŽt think theyŽll come to sweden... /peter http://www.geocities.com/westhollywood/2080/ ------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: Micah Newman Subject: Re: HNIA bashing >> Speaking of which, I've been meaning to respond to the "what was it you liked about Slowdive anyway" query. For me, nearly the entire pleasure I got out of their songs pre-Pygmalion was first and foremost the guitars. The whole big, swirly, shoegazy mess. Morningrise! She Calls! That's the sound I loved them dearly for. The vocals were fine, but they must have been secondary to me, because Pygmalion and the Mojave album don't affect me at all in the same way. << For me, the thing that set Slowdive apart from other shoegazers was not only Neil Halstead's inventive guitar work, but the band's beautiful and enchanting use of male-female unison vocals, drifting in and out from between hefty slabs of flanging and chorus. The overall effect of all this was, as we all know, wonderful! ------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:31:08 +0100 (MET) From: Erik S|derstr|m Subject: Swervedriver / Slowdive connection I met Swervedriver tonight, after a gig here in Linkoping, and talked a bit about their latest stuff and more important the, by Neil and Simon, reported fact that it was Swervedriver who got Slowdive signed to Creation. Steve (bass, vocals) looked at Adam (vocals, guitar) and said: - 'umm.. well, that's for you to answer'. Then Adam asked: - 'who said that? Neil and Rachel?' I replied: - 'no, Neil and Simon, when I asked them after they played in Stockholm in 93' And Adam said: - 'well I don't know, really. Did we?' So the drummer, Jez said to Adam: - 'yes, it was You! You were the guy who got them signed!' And Adam replied: - 'well, maybe it was our manager. Their [Slowdive] demo tape circulated a lot around that time, and maybe he got hold of it and brought it to Creation? I honestly don't know.' So I dropped that subject and asked about the Slowdive/Swervedriver misprint (Slowdive's first EP "Slowdive" was released in ? of copies containing Swervedriver's album "Raise"). Adam said: - 'yeah, I know about that. It's a really rare item you know?' And I told him I had a copy of that one, so he asked: - 'is it our cover and their EP on the CD or...' So I replied: - 'no, the other way around. Their cover and your album. When I bought it and got home and listened to it, I said "whoa, this isn't Slowdive!"' And Adam said: - 'no way! Well, it's just like Creation. Misprints, whatever...' So I didn't ask more about that, though I did ask Adam what he thought about the Mojave 3 stuff and he said: - 'I love it! It's a Cowboy Junkies thing you know?' And Steve said: - 'Mazzy Star kind of..' Well, that's it for the Slowdive questions at least. :-) They [Swervedriver] are signed to Geffen now, in case anyone was wondering, and their latest album "Ejector Seat Reservation" is being released in the US by Geffen in April, with a following tour by the band. On a side note: they played a lot of songs from their first album, "Raise" tonight, I think five or six ones, four songs from "Mezcal Head", and four songs from "Ejector Seat Reservation". The reason they played so many from "Raise", Adam explained, was because that album was never released in Australia, and they recently played there, so they thought, why not play some of our old songs, and rehearsed them again, and to their surprise, they sounded really good! So they decided to include them on the rest of their tour. :-) Well, I guess that's enough babbling from me now. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:45:21 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: And remember... ... to post to the list at __ avalyn@lysator.liu.se __! :-) //Erik ---------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 04:44:02 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Slowdive discography v1.9 When the list is so quiet (now), I thought I'd take the advice I got from some fellow listers and post the Slowdive discography, to maybe start some discussions, get some missing parts added, or corrections posted? There's quite a lot of people on this list now, so I think it's time to end the silence. :-) //Erik [Discography not included in the Digest version of the list!] ------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:19:34 -0500 (EST) From: photon boy Subject: slowdive EPs/Blue Day Hey, I am really in need of Slowdive and Holding Our Breath, and Blue Day. How hard would these thing be to find in the UK? Does anybody have extra copies they are willing to part with? thanks joey -------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:20:42 -0500 From: Windblows@aol.com Subject: name a question hi... i was just wondering if anyone knew the orgin..or idea behind the name mohave3???? is it in referance to the desert in CA?? and was the "three" added because it was originally just going to be ian, rachael and neil??? until once in the studio etc.... also....is it true that one of the oasis boys had to do with slowdive being dropped from creation???-whats the story on this one... curious joe ---------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:45:30 -0800 (PST) From: Micah Newman Subject: Re: name a question On Tue, 30 Jan 1996 Windblows@aol.com wrote: > hi... > i was just wondering if anyone knew the orgin..or idea behind the name > mohave3???? is it in referance to the desert in CA?? > > and was the "three" added because it was originally just going to be ian, > rachael and neil??? until once in the studio etc.... > also....is it true that one of the oasis boys had to do with slowdive being > dropped from creation???-whats the story on this one... > curious joe Mojave had to put the obnoxious 3 on their name because there was already a group named Mojave. I think someone said it was a German band... anyway, I have no idea who they are. ------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 14:08:56 +0100 (MET) From: Christophe Demunter Subject: Mojave3 in Brussels ? Mojave3 were supposed to play at Magasin4 in Brussels, tomorrow night (January 31st). I tried to buy tickets, but I was told the concert is cancelled. Does anyone know if the tour is completely cancelled, or just postponed ? Christophe Demunter, Gent, Belgium. ----------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 19:54:13 -0500 From: Srilank@aol.com Subject: Re: name a question Curious Joe inquired-- >hi... >i was just wondering if anyone knew the orgin..or idea behind the name >mohave3???? is it in referance to the desert in CA?? >and was the "three" added because it was originally just going to be ian, >rachael and neil??? until once in the studio etc.... >also....is it true that one of the oasis boys had to do with slowdive being >dropped from creation???-whats the story on this one... >curious joe Mojave without the 3, was the original name until someone else piped up that Mojave was *their* name (I recall someone saying a German group, which I haven't heard). So, in order to live in musical group naming harmoney, they changed it to Mojave 3. I still don't know why they chose "3" as opposed to "2" or "23". It does seem rather odd that on the conclusion of producing their most experimental and brilliant work (IMO _Pygmalion_), Creation would just flat out and drop Slowdive. However, Oasis has created enough revenue for Creation to enable them to ditch the rest of their roster I suppose. Jason srilank@aol.com --------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:35:34 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: Creation/Sony On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Jason (Srilank@aol.com) wrote: > It does seem rather odd that on the conclusion of producing their most > experimental and brilliant work (IMO _Pygmalion_), Creation would just flat > out and drop Slowdive. However, Oasis has created enough revenue for > Creation to enable them to ditch the rest of their roster I suppose. Yeah, that's exactly what the guys in Swervedriver thought as well. It's just so stupid. Creation used to be one of the top labels for great music, and now they're nothing. That's what happens when the big boys buy the small ones. //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ----------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 16:33:06 -0500 From: Windblows@aol.com Subject: mohave3 in print hi everyone.... .,...just got back from the book store where i read two!!! articles on mohave3........one in A.P. (3 pages) - in the march issue; with ministry on the cover.which had some pretty good picts in it.. and was a good article...it gave the story of rachaels painful eardrum explosions (yes plural!) : ( along with the basic background info etc...... and the other in the new issue of Raygun...with bald billy of the smashing pumpkins on the cover...( not sure which issue it is..'tis the new one though!) jsut a one page small -preview kinda article..in which the mis-informed writer, made a comment about the main " trio of the band" (slowdive) "ditching" the rest of the members to make this album....... ha........! but, it did have a short segment of rachael telling about the downfall of slowdive-which was interesting. joe, still listening to this beautiful album over and over. .....ask me tomorrow ---------------------- Date: 03 Feb 1996 07:59:00 +0100 From: dabl@key.GUN.de (David Bluhm) Subject: Re: Mojave3 in Brussels ? Christophe.Demunter@rug.ac.be 30.01.96 "Mojave3 in Brussels ?" CD>Mojave3 were supposed to play at Magasin4 in Brussels, tomorrow night CD>(January 31st). I tried to buy tickets, but I was told the concert is CD>cancelled. CD>Does anyone know if the tour is completely cancelled, or just postponed ? Yes, the tour is completely cancelled! Rachel told me that she is still suffering from the bursting of her ear drum, when they were on a flight to the USA. At the moment she can't do anything, but she hopes to be on the road in Europe in the summer! ---------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 01:55:13 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: Re: European Tour This Summer On 03 Feb 1996, dabl@key.GUN.de (David Bluhm) wrote: > Yes, the tour is completely cancelled! Rachel told me that she is > still suffering from the bursting of her ear drum, when they were on > a flight to the USA. At the moment she can't do anything, but she > hopes to be on the road in Europe in the summer! I know I have asked this before, but I never receive replies to the email I send to the band, so I thought the list probably is a better place: any chance of Mojave 3 playing in Sweden, if they're going to tour Europe this summer? //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ---------------------- Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 20:51:53 -0500 (EST) From: NWND@grove.iup.edu Subject: mojave in america? slowdive again? hey first of all hello. this is my first post. after seeing posts regarding a purported eurpoean summer tour i became curious; did they already tour america...or would that follow a eurpean tour? another item that i wanted some input on was the future of slowdive? i realize that they have broken up but the ap interview suggested that neil might not have completely satiated the electronic side of his creativity...not that i could see how he ever could...it seemed however that souvlaki and pygmalion were not exactly the band's most favored projects...of course much of that could stem from the politics surrounding their releases. does anyone know what plans they might have...honestly i could go for another slowdive or another mojave... what i'm watching: streetcar named desire withnail and i usual suspects the big sleep what i'm reading thomas wolfe-you cant go home again what i'm listeing to: mojave 3 ask me tommorrow aram khatchaturian violin concerto nick drake five leaves left/pink moon future sound of london lifeforms peace bryan (adnarim) ------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:01:24 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Love songs on promo I recently saw a promo CD w/ 4AD artists, including Mojave [sic, not "3"] - love songs on the radio. You can find it in the 2nd hand shops of Stockholm. Not much interesting except for that track. It's easy to recognize, flashing orange, and in digipak. Something like 12 tracks, i think. BTW, traffic is very low on this list. What's up??? Jan Sundstrom ------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 16:10:46 +0100 From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) Subject: Mojave live US >From starlust: >> Yep, Lush/Mojave3/Scheer starts touring the (in the US) April 11 in >>Seattle, WA >> >> If anyone gets a hold of any more tour dates...PLEASE POST! Jan Sundstrom -------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:19:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Jon Kvebaek Subject: Re: Love songs on promo On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Jan Sundstrom wrote: > I recently saw a promo CD w/ 4AD artists, including Mojave [sic, not "3"] - > love songs on the radio. > > It's easy to recognize, flashing orange, and in digipak. Something like 12 > tracks, i think. This would be the "Facing The Wrong Way" promo methinks. It was given away free at Virgin here in the UK...if you bought another 4AD release. I must agree that it's not very interesting, with the obvious exeptions of Liquorice and Tarnation... Talking about Mojave...when the hell are they touring UK?? Jon Kvebaek -------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 15:21:41 -0500 From: Moonstar9@aol.com Subject: t-shirts hi, does anyone know where i can get a slowdive shirt? they seem next to impossible to find. thanks in advance, jared --------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 03:46:48 +0100 (MET) From: chief@lysator.liu.se Subject: List Statistics [07-Feb-96] Here are some up-to-date list statistics I thought might be insteresting, since the list is awfully "slow". Mailing list started : January 17, 1996 (active almost a month now) Number of subscribers : 68 >From number of countries : 12 Live list subscribers : 48 Digest subscribers : 20 Number of digests so-far : 0 Total number of bytes posted : 38 208 (w/out headers & discographies) Subscribers/country: US : 48 Sweden : 5 UK : 4 Canada : 3 Australia : 1 Belgium : 1 Denmark : 1 France : 1 Germany : 1 Ireland : 1 New Zeeland : 1 Singapore : 1 //Erik (chief@lysator.liu.se) ---------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:16:18 -0500 From: Windblows@AOL.COM Subject: ~so slow~ you're right erik...this list is almost pathetically slow sometimes!!!! and no i'm not knockin it..just mentioning it....... so as to start up a topic.......!!!!! i thought i'd ask a question (and tell a story!) for all on the list to answer : --if they feel inclined that is-- +what do you all think of the mohave3 album " ask me tomorrow" ?+ .......when i first got this , (i bought it at an import store the week it came out), i asked the guy there if he'd heard it yet??.. he said it was "mazzy star-ish" which kinda made me cringe- not because i dont like mazzy star...just because i hate it when a band sounds just like another band, you now!! so anyways.... i was kind of worried.....i'd only heard "love songs on the radio" before then..on that 4ad promo. comp.. and at that point i wasnt even sure if it was THEM!! becase i had no one to confirm it with.....(and yes, it kinda does have that mazzy starish lazytwang to it here and there BUT still........) so after listenin to it the first time .. i wasnt sure what to think of it..i thought to myself.. "no way, this is just too different..i definalty love slowdive so much more than .... this", .....but..after the next listening....i absolutely fell in love with it as well..the songs are so honest, so undisguised....so sad, and so gorgeous all at the same time. now many many many more times has it been played on my stereo....actually almost every day; and i just wanted everyone to know that i think it is as neil and rachael said......strong, upfront, straight-forward and the most important part _beautiful_. true its completely different..but listen to: dagger . miranda. here she comes. visions of la. and all of us .....its all of there too. these are slowdives kind of- "pre-mohave songs" to me - still its such powerfully incredible music.. with both " bands" ..and all of us know this already, thats why we love what they do so much..... mohaves' music makes me think of warm summer nights..windows open, a soft breeze blowing in......big manor in the country..with them playing for me in the room adjacent.... and so much more. looking forward to others thoughts on this lengthy spiel. : ) bye, joe {hi beth !} ---------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 00:07:00 -0500 (EST) From: fiddlepoke Subject: blah hello, I'm new to the list, wheee. I'm also a member of the MBV list and was a member of the dreampop list, before it went kabooey. Anyway, I'm ben, I'm a slowdive addict (well, not addice, cause I wouldn't pay $30 for a single). Anyway, I love them to pieces. I'm even in a band that sounds too much like Slowdive. You can get to our page via my home page at the bottom. We're called "The Sunflower Conspiracy", by the way. Well, I don't know how active this list is, but I just thougth I'd say 'ello. byebye ************************************************************************ * --ben fiddlepoke-- * Okay, it's time to get * * bpadrian@indyunix.iupui.edu * one of those bikes with a * * http://www.iupui.edu/~bpadrian * trailer. * * * * * * * ************************************************************************ ------------------------- End of The Avalyn Digest #1.01 ******************************
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