The Avalyn Digest

Vol.98 #091

June 29th, 1998

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Today's Topics: Re: Mojave 3 - Mazzy Star similarity?? Re: which releases are OOP stuff for sale Re: stuff for sale Re: Slowdive Compilation: Welcome all ANAKIN... Re: Slowdive Compilation: Re: low (nonlisty) cocteau box set? Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? Slowdive/Morningrise/Holding Our Breath 12"s F/S Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? Re: ANAKIN... Re: Slowdive Compilation: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re[4]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: I told you so. bootlegs Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: avalyn-d-request@lysator.liu.se * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: avalyn@lysator.liu.se Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:34:02 EDT From: Catchbreez@aol.com Subject: Re: Mojave 3 - Mazzy Star similarity?? In a message dated 98-06-23 21:48:49 EDT, you write: << On the topic of new CD's that I have bought recently, I also got my first Mazzy Star CD called "So tonight that I might sleep". Excellent CD >> it is so tonight that i might see ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:37:21 EDT From: Catchbreez@aol.com Subject: Re: which releases are OOP my store has copies of morningrise on cd holding our breath 12" slowdive 12" in mind mixes 12" and cd ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:09:30 -0500 From: David Poppie Subject: stuff for sale Here's a few goodies I am selling: 12" Chapterhouse-She's a Vision-$12 CDs-Ride-Fall(new-never played)-$15 CDS-Cranes-Lilies promo-6 songs-$20 CDs-Galaxy 500-4th of July-$15 CDs-Ride-Leave them All Behind-US-$7 CDs-Ride-Vapour Trail-US-$7 CDs-Ride-Twisterella-US-$7 CD-Magnog-S/T-$7.50 Flying Saucer Attack-Live(NZ)-$13 CDs-T.Muses-Bright Yellow Gun-UK-$7 CDs-Lush-500-UK-$7 cds-Lush-Single Girl-UK-$7 LP-Bowry Electric-S/T-blue v.-$10 LP-Third Eye Foundation-Ghost-UK-$8 Get in touch if interested!! Thanks David ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 01:02:09 EDT From: Noktyrne@aol.com Subject: Re: stuff for sale iam interested in 'fall' and 'leave them all behind' ...what is the track listing for the galaxy 500 disc?.. thankyou stick. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:09:16 +0300 (EET DST) From: henrik Subject: Re: Slowdive Compilation: On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mark Stancombe wrote: > onto an initial run of about 20 CDs. I will need the co-operation of people > with mass-producing CD burners to help distribute the rest after this > intial run of 20 as for me each CD is burned at my own cost (I do not > PERSONALLY own a CD burner). The first 20 receiving this CD should be > limited to (a) contributors and (b) Distributors (others with CD-ROMs) so > that others can eventually have access to them. hello, nice to see some enthusiastic people around here. distributing those 20 great ideas, you should probably also do some geographical thinking, especially as reducing costs and making them available seems to be the main goal. it would make things easier later on if the initial copies went to as different countries as possible. keep up the good work. - h. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 00:54:33 -0800 From: Anthony Monahan Subject: Welcome all Just joined the list. Not for fear of offending anyone, but want to put out a request; have been looking to replace stolen copies of Blue Day and 5 ep for a while, if anyone has copies to sell /trade- Don't know if it's been talked about, but picked up Hope Blister (4AD) recently. Quite good. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:46:50 -0400 From: "Mark Stancombe" Subject: ANAKIN... Hey Everyone....!!! Just thought I'd let you know that 4AD put out a compilation CD called "Anakin" that features a demo from the forthcomming Mojave 3 record...sounds heavenly...as well as a bunch of other artists on 4AD doing accoustic ballady things... Cheers... Sillabyss (ie: Mark Stancombe) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 06:44:00 -0400 From: "Mark Stancombe" Subject: Re: Slowdive Compilation: Hey...! > hello, > nice to see some enthusiastic people around here. distributing those 20 > great ideas, you should probably also do some geographical thinking, > especially as reducing costs and making them available seems to be the > main goal. it would make things easier later on if the initial copies > went to as different countries as possible. keep up the good work. - h. Exactly what I was thinking! Tracking down "distributors" will be the toughest part about getting this compilation out there - I have talked to a bunch of people already that are from different parts of the world that would be interested to help out..anyways - thanks for your enthusiasm...:) Sincerely, Mark... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:43:37 +0200 From: Jorge Palomar Subject: Re: low At 01:28 PM 6/25/98 -0700, you wrote: > for all those in love with Low... > their version of "Lord, can you hear me" on the Spacemen 3 cover album > is THE BEST thing I've heard in ages...The album also has tracks from > Bowery Electric, Amp, Flowchart, Mogwai, Transient Waves, etc....SO > worth checking out.... > (Has someone already mentioned this before on the list? Hope I'm not > repeating old info...) This sounds awesome, how long has it been out? What's it called and is it an import? erik It is fantastic. It's published by Rocketgirl; a label run by Vinita from Che/i The correct track list -the one of the record cover is wrong- is: Things'll never be the same .- Bowery Electric Losing touch with my mind .- Asteroid #4 Honey .- Mogway Ode to street hassle .- Flowchart I believe it .- Accelera deck Revolution .- Arab Strap Call the doctor .- Bardo Pond Hey man .- Frontier Lord, can you hear me .- Low So hot (wash away all of my tears) .- Amp How does it feel .- Piano magic Billy Whizz .- Transient Waves Their web site is http://www.che.co.uk/rgirl And their e-mail rocketgirl@cheltd.demon.co.uk Love Jorge ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 10:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: professor plum Subject: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? okay, so i'm nearing totally broke now. i think i want to sell off my cocteau twins box set -- does anybody know how much that goes for nowadays? not looking to rip someone off but just maximize my return and maybe eat for a few more days, you know? :) thanks, ; e. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 09:30:24 -0700 From: "r/r coseboom" Subject: Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? > okay, so i'm nearing totally broke now. i think i want to sell off my > cocteau twins box set -- does anybody know how much that goes for nowadays? > not looking to rip someone off but just maximize my return and maybe eat for > a few more days, you know? :) thanks, i saw three cocteau twins box sets at amoeba records in san francisco the other day for $100 each. i bought a copy about a year ago for $50. i guess it varies. in my opinion, $75 is a pretty reasonable price, i mean, there *are* 10 discs in there. hope this helps, ryan. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 12:41:25 EDT From: M242557sm@aol.com Subject: Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? in florida.. i found it for between 75-80... depending on the stores markup.. hope that helps some.. shane. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:04:01 EDT From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com Subject: Slowdive/Morningrise/Holding Our Breath 12"s F/S Hi Just to let you know....Foxdude Records have the following Slowdive 12"s for sale: Slowdive 4-50 Morningrise 4-50 Holding Our Breath 4-50 If you are interested e-mail Joe (UK) at: joe@foxdude.demon.co.uk Hope this helps! Antony ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 13:28:38 -0500 From: "avalyn" Subject: Re: (nonlisty) cocteau box set? I see it regularily in the Baltimore\D.C area for 50-60 bucks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 15:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Gilham Subject: Re: ANAKIN... On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Mark Stancombe wrote: > Just thought I'd let you know that 4AD put out a compilation CD called > "Anakin" that features a demo from the forthcomming Mojave 3 > record...sounds heavenly...as well as a bunch of other artists on 4AD doing > accoustic ballady things... Erm, thanks ... however, only about half the trks. are "acoustic ballady things." The comp. is well worth getting for the latter and for the songs which come from different ends of the spectrum -- THIEVERY CORP.; GUS GUS; and more ... best, M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 23:46:56 EDT From: Catchbreez@aol.com Subject: Re: Slowdive Compilation: In a message dated 98-06-27 03:09:59 EDT, you write: << On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Mark Stancombe wrote: > onto an initial run of about 20 CDs. I will need the co-operation of people > with mass-producing CD burners to help distribute the rest after this > intial run of 20 as for me each CD is burned at my own cost (I do not > PERSONALLY own a CD burner). The first 20 receiving this CD should be > limited to (a) contributors and (b) Distributors (others with CD-ROMs) so > that others can eventually have access to them. hello, nice to see some enthusiastic people around here. distributing those 20 great ideas, you should probably also do some geographical thinking, especially as reducing costs and making them available seems to be the main goal. it would make things easier later on if the initial copies went to as different countries as possible. keep up the good work. - h. >> what does the band think about this does rachel know ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 14:52:37 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Oh PLEASE don't start now! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 16:33:56 EDT From: KingoGrief@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: catchbreez wrote: << what does the band think about this does rachel know >> crios responded: << Oh PLEASE don't start now! >> i reply: why not? and shouldn't you be a little nicer to your fellow listers? just a thought... jeff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 00:55:39 +0300 From: Siim Kalder Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: At 16:33 28.06.98 EDT, jeff wrote: >catchbreez wrote: > > << what does the band think about this > does rachel know >> > > crios responded: > > << Oh PLEASE don't start now! >> > > i reply: > > why not? and shouldn't you be a little nicer to your fellow listers? Has anybody asked what the band or Rachel think of the enormous amount of money that's being paid for the out of print stuff? I think not... Siim ___________ siimk@ut.ee ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:03:17 EDT From: Catchbreez@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: In a message dated 98-06-28 17:57:01 EDT, you write: << Has anybody asked what the band or Rachel think of the enormous amount of money that's being paid for the out of print stuff? I think not... Siim >> but does that make a bootleg OK maybe you should make a bootleg and send half the money to the band remember they dont make loads of money when i met them in austin she told me how much she dispised the bootlegs ill admit a friend of mine made me a cdr copy of the eps and bsides but i had most of it already and im not selling it steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 18:12:59 EDT From: M242557sm@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: well.. to make this truly a compliation for us people who just want the meaterial, love the band, and dont want to pay the high prices.. non-profit seems the way to go.. and i think its what we were all talking about anyways.. is a non profit comp... sounds like a great idea to me.. how could a band disaprove of someone loving their meaterial so much, that they choose to make it available for people who want it, at non profit prices.. shane. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 98 17:38:43 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Re[4]: Slowdive Compilation: I'm not trying to be mean it's just we've all heard the arguments back and forth it's nothing really new... My own personal opinion is... I have respect for the band and all the other people involved, they're entitled to their money and all... but if the stuff is out of print and we want to hear it.. How does putting together a CD hurt them? They're not putting one out so they're not losing any money... and even if they did put one out later on.. me and a bunch of other people would probably buy it anyway... I would really like to see this CD go ahead, and I am willing to contirbute in anyway... There's my to cents... No offense Crios ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 19:14:39 -0400 From: "avalyn" Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: Just drop it now! Pleeeease! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 04:53:25 +0300 (EET DST) From: henrik Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: i'm really sorry for helping to carry this pointless argument on, but can't you really get it? it's not about cheating the band in any way, it's just to get the music out there. eventually fading away on the dusty shelves at collectors' homes, the fortune will be of no use to neither the band, nor their fans. the way it's planned, at least the latter can play their part, which is all they want, and which, if it were working the way it should, might be all the band wants... - h. -- kukulain@Moritz.botany.ut.ee Moritz.botany.ut.ee/~kukulain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 22:27:55 -0400 From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Slowdive Compilation: > i'm really sorry for helping to carry this pointless argument on, but > can't you really get it? Doing something like this if non-profit is fine, IF the band is not against the project. However, most of you seem to be saying that you don't care what the band thinks, you're going to do it anyway. If Rachel explicitly says you should drop it, i hope you do. Evan > it's not about cheating the band in any way, > it's just to get the music out there. eventually fading away on the > dusty shelves at collectors' homes, the fortune will be of no use to > neither the band, nor their fans. the way it's planned, at least the > latter can play their part, which is all they want, and which, if it > were working the way it should, might be all the band wants... - h. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 07:02:55 -0500 From: o_o_o Subject: I told you so. I'm sorry, but I have to point out that this discussion about the rarities comp is exactly what I said would happen last week. This is what always happens. If somebody really wants to see it done, they should just do it, and not even mention it to the list at large. shaking my head and going "tisk, tisk," --gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 08:52:28 -0400 (EDT) From: professor plum Subject: bootlegs concerning this thing, i have just one question that i think is relevant -- just how different is a cd-r from a tape as far as copyright etc goes? we're just talking technology. nobody disagrees that trading tapes of old stuff is okay -- what about cd-r's for tapes, or cd-r's for cd-r's? i guess it's just the cash thing. if we could just take cash out of the picture, then maybe there wouldn't be so many objections? really, i don't see a solid argument against just going ahead and doing the damn thing as long as it's not done in david stack fashion. ; ed ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #91 ********************************
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