The Avalyn Digest

Vol.98 #079

May 20th, 1998

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Today's Topics: Re: slowdive stickers Re: slowdive stickers catchbreez Re: lsd et al. Re: slowdive stickers Re: slowdive stickers Re: slowdive stickers Blind Mr. Jones - Crazy Jazz cd single for trade CHAPTERHOUSE email list beginning autumns Re: autumns Re: slowdive stickers splinterworld review attn:gordon brown Mojave 3 gig in London last friday Re: vinyl in stock Re: vinyl in stock Re: autumns Re: autumns defense Re: autumns defense Deserted... what that guy said!!! Re: autumns hello. Re[2]: autumns Did I mention.... autumns Several Bands Galore Re: Several Bands Galore Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: avalyn-d-request@lysator.liu.se * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: avalyn@lysator.liu.se Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 22:07:02 EDT From: M242557sm Subject: Re: slowdive stickers slowdive stickers are a great idea, if you do make them, i will send you postage if you could send me a few!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 22:15:16 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: slowdive stickers ill update the list soon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 02:24:48 EDT From: Suedehead0 Subject: catchbreez steve!! i'll take a slowdive sticker hee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 19:52:49 +1000 (EST) From: athomas@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alister Thomas) Subject: Re: lsd et al. >sorry love lies crushing are not as good > >LSD are great >branching into electronic dub stuff and ethereal noise ...which Loveliescrushing take to an extreme which, I think, makes it all the more worthwhile. Even though Love Spirals Downwards are considerably more "tame", in terms of noise-scapes, I think that if one is going to get into that side of the muscial spectrum, then why not go to extremes (ie. LLC)?? But, yea, it's all just a matter of opinion, at the end of the day. i just feel that LLC wne tso much further than LSD did in terms of doing something completely over the top making it all the more a musical experience. What amazes me is that it was all done on 4 track equipment... (LSD, as well, I think)... Alister ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 06:41:40 EDT From: ALTONBARNS Subject: Re: slowdive stickers In a message dated 16/05/98 02:03:45, you write: << everytime someone orders a slowdive or mojave 3 album from me i will be sending a sticker along with the purchase they are technically bootleg but im not making any money from them i just thought we as slowdive fans need them i may get some mojave 3 ones aswell >> Back in the Spring of 1996 Mojave 3 sent out a newletter that contained a free Mojave 3 button badge and a `This country loves Majove 3` sticker....did anyone else get one?? Ant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 11:59:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Gilham Subject: Re: slowdive stickers On Sat, 16 May 1998, ALTONBARNS wrote: > Back in the Spring of 1996 Mojave 3 sent out a newletter that contained a free > Mojave 3 button badge and a `This country loves Majove 3` sticker....did > anyone else get one?? No, but it sure would be cool if you could still come by the above :-) How did you come to receive the things, in the first place ?? all my best, --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 13:36:16 -0700 From: Mitch Bacigalupi Subject: Re: slowdive stickers >In a message dated 16/05/98 02:03:45, you write: > ><< everytime someone orders a slowdive or mojave 3 album > from me > i will be sending a sticker along with the purchase > they are technically bootleg but im not making any money from them > > i just thought we as slowdive fans need them > > i may get some mojave 3 ones aswell >> > >Back in the Spring of 1996 Mojave 3 sent out a newletter that contained a free >Mojave 3 button badge and a `This country loves Majove 3` sticker....did >anyone else get one?? > >Ant I still have the Mojave 3 badge, but I don't know what happened to the sticker. Cheers, -Mitch BTW...I would LOVE to have a Slowdive sticker!!! Keep us posted about when/how we can get one!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 19:53:48 -0400 From: "Avalyn" "Ceremony - new order" Subject: Blind Mr. Jones - Crazy Jazz cd single for trade Anyone interested in a copy of Blind Mr. Jonmes', Crazy Jazz, I'm looking to trade. The disc has a few minor nicks (plays fine). I'm looking for any of the following with preference for anyonw with Puressence stuff: Any Puressence single (except Casting Lazy Shadows) or the self titled cd Wire singles (except Kidney Bingoes) Pale Saints singles (except Fine Friend, Half-life or Barging into the Presence of God) I will except cdrs of any of the above with some added material (also any rare stuff - Peel Sessions, Demos, unreleased mixes, live-only performances ect - by Morrissey, Smiths, Pale Saints, Slowdive, Chameleons, New Order, Lush or any of the above will be entertained). Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:35:49 -0400 From: eddiej7@juno.com (i'll be your future boy) Subject: CHAPTERHOUSE email list beginning Hi everyone, Sorry for the cross posts, as i'm sure a few of you may get this a few times..... AUTOSLEEPER, a Chapterhouse email list is being started. Hopefully it will serve as a forum for discussion of Chapterhouse, as well as information for what the former members of Chapterhouse are doing these days. To subscribe send an email to with the body (without quotes) "subscribe youraddress@domain.com autosleeper-l" Thanks, Evan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 98 11:18:18 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: autumns Just picked up the autumns the other day when I saw it used... I REALLY like the music.. mut I just don't know about the vocals... they are umm... well I don't know... they just sound kinda funny to me... Picked up swervdriver too, 99th dream... Really good... How's Mescalhead??? Crios ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 19:20:47 -0700 From: Mitch Bacigalupi Subject: Re: autumns >Just picked up the autumns the other day when I saw it used... I REALLY >like the >music.. mut I just don't know about the vocals... they are umm... well I don't >know... they just sound kinda funny to me... I feel the EXACT same way about them. I don't know how they sound live, but I'm going to find out in a couple of weeks. If anyone is in the SF Bay Area, they are playing with Bethany Curve (Very Slowdive-ish) at the Cactus Club in San Jose on Wed., May 27th. If anyone needs directions or any info, let me know. I live about 10 min. from the club. Cheers, -Mitch ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:33:20 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: Re: slowdive stickers Hey, I'll send you postage, or a demo of my band for some stickers! wade ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:55:26 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: splinterworld review ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 22:45:46 -0400 Subject: splinterworld From: twisterello@juno.com (Spiro Gouras) What a nice review!!!! attention New Yorkers! we finally have a good shoegaze band to stalk in New York city...Splinterworld! saw them at The Continental last night and i really have to say that they have....talent! Great effects, grat vocals, great guitars...wonderful melodies...and Wade (you are on the Ride list, right?) says that was a bad show. well, that "bad" show showed the strength of a band that has an array of songs that range from the beautiful haziness of Slowdive to the great catchiness of songs like Chelsea Girl. Raise the Roof! Spiro BTW...Wade says there's gonna be a name change... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:26:26 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: attn:gordon brown sorry to cross post... Can't find gordon Brown's e-mail and wanted to see if we were still on for our trade... e-mail me. wade@tapehouse.com where is everybody anyways? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:06:15 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Mojave 3 gig in London last friday Mojave 3 played at The Water Rats in London last friday. It was not a secret, but it was a last minute gig, not advertised, and no one (but a selected few - no, not me, I was told today) was told about it. Anyone on the list happen to drop by the venue last friday by any chance? //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:37:21 EDT From: Noktyrne Subject: Re: vinyl in stock hello you still have morningrise?.. perhaps ejectorseat reservation... i appreciate any replies ...or information if i crawled across the floor ...then id be closer to that door but its toofar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:43:08 EDT From: Noktyrne Subject: Re: vinyl in stock nevermind ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:50:33 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: autumns his vocals are great and his name is mark i believe you peopel disgust me always wanting something to sould like everything else probably the same poeple who dont like mojave 3 cuz they dont use pedals get real the autumns are fucking amazing live and he can sing just a bit more emotional than neil does his vocals arent drowned out and hushed they are catherine wheel right in your face vocals you need to realize that slowdive isnt a band anymore the are a memory that will live on forever and if you keep expecting something to be just like it you'll be dissapointed steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:12:15 -0500 (CDT) From: James W Weber Subject: Re: autumns defense rofl! when i first bought the autumns i had a problem with his vocals, music was fine, but his vocals just sounded whiney at times...i got used to them though...i don't even really remember anyone saying they were upset that the autumns didn't have the exact same vocal treatment as slowdive. And, despite having reservations about his voice, i do not wish the autumns to sound like slowdive, i want them to sound like the autumns. its possible, you know, to think that something is not perfect but quite good. criticizing a band does not automatically mean one thinks they are awful. and just because one says a band isn't as good as another, in one's opinion, doesn't mean you think they wholeheartedly "suck." and why the qualifications, anyway? liking one band better than another is ONLY that, liking them better...it doesn't mean that they are objectively better in any sense. you need to grow a tougher skin, buddy. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 23:16:18 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: autumns defense i agree what im sick of is these people who keep saying "i wish mojave 3 sounded like slowdive" trust me it gets old doing the same thing they need autumns ep is supposed to be 60 pop like the byrds ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:46:34 +1000 (EST) From: athomas@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Alister Thomas) Subject: Deserted... Where has everybody gone???? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:15:39 -0500 (CDT) From: cory collins <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu> Subject: what that guy said!!! > you peopel disgust me > always wanting something to sould like everything else > probably the same poeple who dont like mojave 3 cuz they dont use pedals > get real > > > you need to realize that slowdive isnt a band anymore the are a memory that > will live on forever and if you keep expecting something to be just like it > you'll be dissapointed Ouch! and you want people to buy stuff from you! everyone is out trying to prove what a great fan and open minded person they are... Why not open your mind to the fact that some people think Mojave 3's progression towards 3-chord country just plain sucks? Not because they aren't slowdive anymore and not because they don't use pedals. They can mature however they want, but I think it is a change for the worse. That's my OPINION. It doesn't infringe on your right to like whatever you like and it's not a personal attack on you. I don't like their new stuff. Why does everyone seem to have such a problem with that? I'm not asking them to remake Slowdive. I just don't like the new stuff! cory 1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:32:11 -0400 (EDT) From: mike p Subject: Re: autumns > you peopel disgust me > always wanting something to sould like everything else > probably the same poeple who dont like mojave 3 cuz they dont use pedals you people never cease to crack me up. this isn't a joke right? yr actually serious.. hahahah why the hostility? people don't like his voice.. so what?! mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:49:20 -0400 (EDT) From: butterfly mcqueen Subject: hello. people need to chill the fuck out! i'm glad the list is kind of quiet, it's been a lot of hot air recently. the same old shite. ; e. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 98 12:08:07 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Re[2]: autumns Hold on there big guy... I like the Autumns too, I wasn't comparing them to slowdive or anyone else.. I was just saying that I think The music is excelent, but to me the vocals sound.. I don't know.. Just kinda wierd... I really don't know what I would prefer to hear.. Just something a little different... No offense intended at all.. Just letting out the opoinoin... Oh yeah!! I saw Bjork last night at House of Blues in Chicago.. this was the first time I ever saw her live... I missed her the last time she came to chicago and the other two times I was going to go see her she cancelled on us.... What a FUCKING (pardon my language here, I'm trying to stress how good it was) BRILLIANT show... It was so good... Highly reccommended... Well have a good one Crios ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 98 12:12:04 CST From: Crios@dminet.davidson-marketing.com Subject: Did I mention.... Did I mention that Bjork was a REALLY BRILLIANT show??? Sorry I'm just in awe of how good it was and would like to spread the word... Oh yeah picked up Swervedriver.. Mescalhead... I can't believe I didn't pick up on these guys before... WOW.. I dig em' alot... Have a good one Crios ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 13:36:03 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: autumns About the autumns, I would personally love to see them live, but they never play around NYC. I've heard they're better live. Though I didn't like their album when I first heard it, it grew on me. I know that the vocals did kind of bother me at first, because it reminded me of Roland from Tears for Fears. But I think when you can look past all that and listen to it for the music, it's really emotional. just a thought to add to the deserted list. wade ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:25:31 -0400 From: Andy McMillan Subject: Several Bands Galore Anybody know when the Slowdive/MBV listee CD is due out? Is it on hold until Daniel Clairedeleon returns from Europe? (When is that?) Andy -- Andrew McMillan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:10:39 -0400 (EDT) From: mike p Subject: Re: Several Bands Galore > Anybody know when the Slowdive/MBV listee CD is due out? Is it on hold > until Daniel Clairedeleon returns from Europe? (When is that?) the CDs are at my house (i live with daniel). it is unfortunatly on hold untill he gets back. we still have to do the covers. he gets back the first week of june or so, so they should be done a week after that. one of us will post when theres some progress. mike ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #79 ********************************
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