The Avalyn Digest

Vol.98 #077

May 12th, 1998

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Today's Topics: Re: lsd Re: lsd Re: telescopes Bardo Pond tour dates The Verve Re: lsd Re: Bardo Pond tour dates vinyl in stock *New* Mojave 3 MP3 available Re: telescopes new kev shields mix drop nineteens Slowdive... Slowdive... Re: Slowdive... Re: new kev shields mix beach song/take me down Eternal - Glass Arcade Re: telescopes Re: drop nineteens Re: drop nineteens Re: drop nineteens Re: telescopes Re: beach song/take me down Re: Slowdive... Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: avalyn-d-request@lysator.liu.se * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: avalyn@lysator.liu.se Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:12:42 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: lsd ever is my favorite the idylls then ador you should also get the "side ways forrest" idllys is like cocteau twins bluebell knool ador is more like victorialand but the are brilliant i love them ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 02:45:26 -0400 From: Andy McMillan Subject: Re: lsd Gary wrote: > I just aquired a copy of Love Spirals Downward's "Ever" (for $1!) and must > say I'm quite impressed! Gorgeous vocals and melodies without the (IMO) > oppressive gothic vibe which plagues many Projekt releases... apologies to > anyone offended by that! My question: how does "Ardor" compare to the > lovely "Ever"? How odd. I too picked up "Ever" on a whim for $1.99 and promptly fell in love. Just like Gary, I figured that--being on Projekt--it couldn't be all that bad and was pleasantly suprised by the lack of obvious goth trappings. I have since also found "Ardor" for $6.00 and it's quite good as well. Just like everybody else, I tend to favor the first recording I hear by a band, but Ardor is really, really good. I would say it was a tad less electronic than Ever, with a bigger emphasis on the vocals. I think a couple of the songs might even be duets (anyone?) How does the first record compare to these two? Anybody seen them live? LSD kick Loveliescrushing's ass by the way, Andy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gage Crump Subject: Re: telescopes celeste CD is their best! very beautiful. most recommended. (if you find an extra copy on CD can you sell it to me, thanks?) yeah , its great! -gage ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:30:28 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Bardo Pond tour dates Just noticed the new tour date list for Bardo Pond at Matador, which sadly does not include any dates in Europe, but for the lucky people on the right side of the pond... Bardo Pond 6/5 - WAshington - Metro 6/6 - Carrboro NC - Cat's Cradle 6/7 - W. Columbia - New Brookland Tav. 6/8 - Orlando - Saphire Supper club 6/9 - Jacksonville FL - Stripmind 6/11 - Atlanta - Point 6/12 - Memphis - Barrister's 6/13 - Oklahoma City - VZD's 6/14 - Dallas TX - Trees 6/15 - Austin - Electric Lounge 6/17 - Albuquerque - Launchpad 6/19 - Los Angeles - Fold @ chorus 6/20 - San Francisco - Bottom of Hill 6/22 - Portland - Satyricon 6/23 - Seattle - Crocodile 6/25 - VAncouver - Starfish 6/26 - Calgary - Night Gallery 6/27 - Edmonton - Rebar 6/29 - Saskatoon - Amigo's 6/30 - Winnipeg - Pyramid 7/2 - Madison - UW Madison Terrace 7/17 - New York - mercury //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 12:21:06 -0500 From: Andrew Freeman Subject: The Verve Anybody else got tickets? I got mine this morning for the Houston, TX show! Can't wait. It was kind of funny, they were selling SPICE GIRLS tickets the same time. Still can't believe that. At least it wasn't hanson tickets. Although, I do like the Industrial mix of MMMMBop. Just kidding. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 14:15:57 -0600 (MDT) From: michael maes Subject: Re: lsd ardor is very very nice... must get it,,,,,,, MUST > One more quick question: > > I just aquired a copy of Love Spirals Downward's "Ever" (for $1!) and must > say I'm quite impressed! Gorgeous vocals and melodies without the (IMO) > oppressive gothic vibe which plagues many Projekt releases... apologies to > anyone offended by that! My question: how does "Ardor" compare to the > lovely "Ever"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 16:46:07 -0600 From: Brad Nicholson Subject: Re: Bardo Pond tour dates At 03:30 PM 09/05/98 +0200, you wrote: > Just noticed the new tour date list for Bardo Pond at Matador, > which sadly does not include any dates in Europe, but for the > lucky people on the right side of the pond... Thanks for the info Erik! Swervedriver and now Bardo Pond, all in the same week. I can hardly wait. brad. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 04:46:24 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: vinyl in stock my store recently got the following slowdive slowdive ep holding our breath in mind (mixes) these are all vinyl 15.99 morningrise in mid (mixes) cds 9.99 e mail me we special order imports and i can get just about anything ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:25:04 +0200 (MET DST) From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: *New* Mojave 3 MP3 available The nice Richard Holtzman at 4AD has put up a song from the forthcoming album through FTP with permission from Neil. Here are the details: Song: Give What You Take Size: 4.3MB (MP3) and 531kb (RealAudio) Length: 4.35 minutes MP3 Specifics: 128kbps, 22kHz Highs: There's a really disted electric guitar in there. :) Lows: If Rachel is singing, it's backing vocals only. American FTP: ftp://ftp.evo.org/pub/4ad-sounds/ European FTP: ftp://ftp.wolfson.ox.ac.uk/pub/4ad-sounds/ You can also find the Hope Blister's "Sweet Unknown" (the Cranes cover - which is excellent) there (if they haven't removed it seconds ago). //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:21:02 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: Re: telescopes | I sense this has been asked before, but here goes: | | Are there any Telescopes' fans on this list who could suggest which EP of | theirs is worth tracking down? yeah... | I've listened to the S/T LP, and the Flying EP from 1991, and found both of | them enjoyable, yet ultimately lacking that elusive something. yeah. i know what you mean... they are pretty good though. like your average everyday dreamy pop band. but with sitars and a definite ethnic undertone... listen, it's there. to me, that sets them apart from all the others... but then thats just what yanks my chain... | Both the Taste | collection and Dead Girl Walking EP circa 1989 sound like a noisy garage | band... shit yeah!!! crap is another word i like to use when describing that stuff... it sounds like really bad european metal... all that bullshit about the perfect needle and the sweet release of death and all that crap... god i was sooooo dissapointed when i found the first album... but it does have some good moments of noise... | a different sound entirely from the aforementioned dreampoppish | Creation releases. yeah. and thank god for that... | Which leaves the Telescopes EP, Everso EP, and Celeste | EP's from the period in between (90-91on Creation)... can anybody | describe/recommend these EP's to a Slowdive/Ride(early!)/MBV fan? ok. there is also precious little, but i guess thats the telescopes ep that you are referring to... i've got it but i haven't heard it yet... everso and celeste are great. well, i like them. i wont say that they are better or worse than any of their other stuff, but they are the ones that i prefer the most. there is a really long version of celeste on the ep. and that is really cool. they just sound the best. they dont sound any more like any one particular band (mbv/ride/slowdive/swervedriver/anyone), they just sound good and solid... really well made... god i sound like a screwdriver salesman... | Any response appreciated, tis nice to be appreciated, dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 11:48:54 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: new kev shields mix has anyone heard the kevin shields remix of coming up roses by curve??? i'm curious to know whether it was just me or did everyone else think that he didn't do anything useful at all to the original song... it is pretty much the same song... ie: a crap remix... and for awesome remix of the month my recommendation goes to: the primal scream remix of mathar by indian vibes... good stuff!!! good stuff indeed!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 12:00:07 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: drop nineteens i was in a shop the other day and i picked up an album called delaware by a band called drop nineteens for 3... has anyone heard this? its great... not unlike dream pop, but with more beef... kinda like saint johnny but a bit morey noise/effectsey (a la mbv). but the main gem of this cd is track three... winona. jeeeeeezus h christ. love that song... does anyone know anything about drop nineteens? do they have a web page or does anyone have the winona single that they want to swap/ sell??? dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:24:48 -0400 From: "Gordon Brown" Subject: Slowdive... Hi, If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange: *Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of stage) * VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some blocked shots) Thanks Gord ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:00:30 -0400 From: "Gordon Brown" Subject: Slowdive... Hi, Sorry to post this again, but I was having some email troubles and was not sure it got through. If you tried to respond to this last time I apologize. You can also contact me at sp_6@hotmail.com One thing else I have that I forgot to mention that might be of interest is a 1 hr His Name Is Alive video which features a segment of ESP Summer (w/ Ian Masters) preforming in a record store. thanks for everyones time. gord Hi, If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange: *Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of stage) * VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some blocked shots) Thanks Gord ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:17:22 +0000 From: Kryshna Avina Subject: Re: Slowdive... Gordon Brown wrote: > Hi, > > If anyone has a copy of the cd Dots and Loops by Stereolab that they would > like to get rid of I could send you 1 Maxell HGX video with the following > Slowdive boot videos on it in exchange: > > *Lee's Palace, Toronto 21.05.94 60 A- (handheld camera--from side of > stage) > > * VK, Brussels 12.11.91 60 A-- (handheld camera -- front centre -- some > blocked shots) Dude, I'll do it....send me your info... -Krys ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:25:01 +0200 From: Erik Soderstrom Subject: Re: new kev shields mix At 11:48 1998-05-11 +0100, you wrote: > has anyone heard the kevin shields remix of coming up roses by curve??? > > i'm curious to know whether it was just me or did everyone else think that > he didn't do anything useful at all to the original song... it is pretty > much the same song... ie: a crap remix... It is a weird remix that's for sure, but still - it's pretty cool IMO. Very different from the original - spaced out, and the repetitive "can you feel" part (three or so of the six minutes) is hypnotic. I'm not sure if I like the ultra-disted guitar though - my ears bleed listening to it. :) The Danny Saber remix is extremely close to the original version on the other hand. //Erik ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 10:24:23 PDT From: "john kupchik" Subject: beach song/take me down I was wondering, nay, PRAYING that someone on this list has the beach song/take me down 7". i desperately NEED to hear this! Would anyone be kind enough to tape it for me if i sent them the tape and postage and all that? I could also tape some rare stuff for you and we could do a sort of bootleg trade, i suppose. i have everything else slowdive has put out, my bloody valentine's "ecstacy and wine" album, a video bootleg of windy&carl, bowery electric and E.A.R. ( from a concert in pitts,penn in july 1996), and a bunch of other stuff. anyone at all interested PLEASE e-mail me privately. (i don't sound too desperate, do i?) warm regards, john ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:44:44 EDT From: ALTONBARNS Subject: Eternal - Glass Arcade Hi I have a CD copy of GLASS ARCADE (SARAH501CD) featuring: ETERNAL - Sleep ETERNAL - Breath ETERNAL was CHRISTIAN SAVILLS band before SLOWDIVE....You can see where the Slowdive sound came from. Heres what I will trade for: Blueboy - Speedboat (CD Album Japanese compilation) Field Mice, The - Skywriting (CD Album import?) Field Mice, The - Snowball (CD Album import) Various - Engine Common (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah628CD) Various - Battery Point (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah359CD) Various - Air Balloon Road (CD Album Sarah Compilation Sarah545CD) Various - Temple Cloud (SARAH compilation) Various - La Rue Du Chat Qui Peche (SARAH Compilation) Cheers Ant ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 15:35:43 -0500 (CDT) From: biz <1cc5776@unixstew.tstc.edu> Subject: Re: telescopes I bought the Celeste ep and returned it for credit at the music store... it was nothing in comparison to the album I had heard (can't remember the title of the album unfortunately) and may be jsut me but seems like would be for more hardcore fans... On Sat, 9 May 1998, Lisa Johnson wrote: > I sense this has been asked before, but here goes: > > Are there any Telescopes' fans on this list who could suggest which EP of > theirs is worth tracking down? > > I've listened to the S/T LP, and the Flying EP from 1991, and found both of > them enjoyable, yet ultimately lacking that elusive something. Both the Taste > collection and Dead Girl Walking EP circa 1989 sound like a noisy garage > band... a different sound entirely from the aforementioned dreampoppish > Creation releases. Which leaves the Telescopes EP, Everso EP, and Celeste > EP's from the period in between (90-91on Creation)... can anybody > describe/recommend these EP's to a Slowdive/Ride(early!)/MBV fan? > > Any response appreciated, ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:47:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Gilham Subject: Re: drop nineteens On Mon, 11 May 1998 davebp@postmaster.co.uk wrote: > i was in a shop the other day and i picked up an album called delaware by a > band called drop nineteens for 3... has anyone heard this? its great... > not unlike dream pop, but with more beef... kinda like saint johnny but a > bit morey noise/effectsey (a la mbv). but the main gem of this cd is track > three... winona. jeeeeeezus h christ. love that song... does anyone know > anything about drop nineteens? do they have a web page or does anyone have > the winona single that they want to swap/ sell??? All I know about Drop 19s is that they're American and after first hearing them I tried in vain for ages to find the release containing the song I'd heard ... Maybe it was Winona - I dunno? Anyway, I really liked it; though I heard something from a later release which wasn't as good ... Sorry not to be able to add much to this; but hopefully there is someone who can contribute more specific info about the once promising band :-) cheers --Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:11:35 +0000 From: Brian Burgher Subject: Re: drop nineteens the drop nineteens had an ep that came from that albulm called your aquarium I have it on tape.I also owned national coma but that was a really baaaaad albulm.poor follow up to deleware.seeing your message was like a blast from the past I haven't listened to deleware in 2 years.anyway the ep includes :1.my aquarium(second time around) 2.nausea 3.movie 4.mandy 5.my aquarium (albulm version) Is this stuff hard to find now. I see d19's in used all the time in philly. brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 May 98 22:33:57 -0000 From: SPACEboy Subject: Re: drop nineteens > All I know about Drop 19s is that they're American and after first hearing > them I tried in vain for ages to find the release containing the song I'd > heard ... Maybe it was Winona - I dunno? Anyway, I really liked it; > though I heard something from a later release which wasn't as good ... > Sorry not to be able to add much to this; but hopefully there is someone > who can contribute more specific info about the once promising band :-) All I can add here is that I know the bass player through a friend, and he's now onto another project called Bake McBride in Boston. As far as other members, I have no idea what they're doing. But the Drop19s as a band haven't been together for many years. Shame. -brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:46:30 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: Re: telescopes | I bought the Celeste ep and returned it for credit at the music store... | it was nothing in comparison to the album I had heard (can't remember the | title of the album unfortunately) and may be jsut me but seems like would | be for more hardcore fans... funny, i loved celeste and everso and was really diappointed by the album... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 10:16:44 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: Re: beach song/take me down john, e-mail me wade@tapehouse.com I can help you out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:21:56 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: Re: Slowdive... Gordon, I'll do that trade!!!! e-mail me... wade@tapehouse.com ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #77 ********************************
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