The Avalyn Digest

Vol.98 #060

April 27th, 1998

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Today's Topics: Oslo--ending Magnog, slowdive MP3s Re: Colfax Abbey + SF59 re: useless lush trivia re: colfax abbey re: Windy & Carl Re: Colfax Abbey Leeds, UK, site of a thousand stars bursting Re: Leeds, UK, site of a thousand stars bursting Re: ALISON on Much Music Re: useless lush trivia Re: SF59, lush, etc. Re: Pale Saints In Ribbons Re: JAMC Re: Pale Saints In Ribbons Re: JAMC piece of mind Re: piece of mind Re: piece of mind Re: piece of mind Re: help - shoe pie and david stack is a cunt Re: Colfax Abbey Administrivia: To unsubscribe from the Avalyn Digest mailing list: * send e-mail to: avalyn-d-request@lysator.liu.se * with the Subject: unsubscribe To post to the Avalyn mailing list: * use the address: avalyn@lysator.liu.se Digest back issues can be found through FTP and HTTP: ftp://ftp.lysator.liu.se/pub/texts/uxu/avalyn/ http://www.lysator.liu.se/~chief/avalyn.html () Please take care not to include the entire digest in your () reply, only the message(s) you are replying to. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 15:38:42 -0500 From: travis salisbury Subject: Oslo--ending Does any one know what the music at the end of slowdive's set on the Oslo tape was? travis ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:02:54 -0500 From: Agent Cooper Subject: Magnog, slowdive MP3s Hey there. Just thought I'd say: I like Magnog. Also, can anyone here tell me if I did or did not put up She Calls and Morningrise on my slowdive MP3 page? Erik doesn't think I did, but I swear I remember doing so... Agent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:32:52 -0500 From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede) Subject: Re: Colfax Abbey + SF59 > COLFAX ABBEY > I'll hunt down "drop" for sure - Luis? I suppose the clips you sent me > were from drop as well, right? But they aren't still around? Does anyone > know what happened, and where they are now? Yeah, the MP3s I sent you were all from _Drop_. I didn't have time to MP3 anything from _Penetrate_, 'cos all the tracks are too long. I really don't know what happened to them after that. It's safe to assume they're now defunct like so many other great bands. I don't know where you can find the albums. I bought _Penetrate_ from CDNow when it came out in '96. I found _Drop_ at Waterloo in Austin in '96 as well (suppose that's a little out of reach, eh?). Luis timethief@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 98 00:01:45 UT From: "Lisa Johnson" Subject: re: useless lush trivia Expanding on the recommendation of the Lush "Gala" EP collection over their later efforts, I personally feel the best songs on "Gala" are from the "Scar" EP from July '89 (Lush's debut release). This early material from the summer of '89 (with it's more aggressive guitar sound) predates the Th' Faith Healers more so than borrowing from the school of Robin Guthrie, with whom they began collaborating later that December. Quite an abrupt shift in sound over 5 months! Scar EP: "Baby Talk", "Thoughtforms", "Scarlet", "Bitter", "Second Sight", "Etheriel" All of these songs are naturally available on "Gala", which can be obtained for less than the original EP, so... I guess I'm done babbling now. Gary ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 98 00:32:33 UT From: "Lisa Johnson" Subject: re: colfax abbey Just found a sealed copy of Colfax Abbey's "Drop" at San Francisco's new Amoeba records store for $4.99 clearance... perhaps they have more in stock? And no, they still have no immediate plans for mailorder, so... My first impression of "Drop" is that it SOUNDS great, due in no small part to Keith Cleversley's masterful production (Flaming Lips, Mercury Rev,...etc), with sonic textures reminiscent of the early Slowdive EP's wrapped around some catchy melodies. Quite a jump to "Penetration", which calls to mind Labradford's debut release "Prazision" with it's cold, droning, electronic ambience. If you see "Drop", pick it up! Too bad they split up... Re: Pale Saints - their first EP was recorded Nov/Dec 1988 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 98 00:57:41 UT From: "Lisa Johnson" Subject: re: Windy & Carl Fans of Windy & Carl should check out their collaborative effort with Randall Nieman of Fuxa under the name "Once Dreamt", which was released (vinyl only) on Blue Flea records in 1995. Envision "Drawings of Sound" with moog and additional percussion... nice. I found it 2 years ago in a clearance bin, but you can write to: Blue Flea 25439 Stanford Dearborn Heights, MI 48125 Discovery of the Month: Have any Moonshake fans come across their first EP "First"? It was recorded in February '91(!) and released on Creation(!) later that year... it's amazing stuff! Four songs + 1 untitled track, and Margaret handles ALL the vocals! The entrancing rhythms and guitar textures recall Ecstasy of St. Theresa's best moments... if you're a fan of Laika, or if David's vocals keep you from enjoying Moonshake, this is what you need... IMO: Hard to believe this was released BEFORE MBV's "Loveless" (on Creation nonetheless), and virtually ignored by the press who instead championed the later LP "Eva Luna" (which pales by comparison)... go figure! Best wishes, Gary ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 22:07:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Selby Subject: Re: Colfax Abbey > > I'm pretty sure that they have broken up. They are/were on Prospective > > Records. They'ver released two albums, "Drop" which is the straight out > > dreampop one, and Penetration, which is considerably more ambient. Are you sure they've broken up? A friend of mine saw them last summer in minneapolis. i guess a lot can happen in a year, but.... Also, if anyone here is interested in february, you might want to look into them in the very near future, as I hear they're probably going to be breaking up in june when their bassist leaves... :( erik: you might want to check let it be records in minneapolis for a used/new copy of colfax abbey stuff - they always seem to have a copy in whenever I'm in the store. I think they have a web site at www.letitbe.com (i vaguely remember them allowing online orders...) jason. - thanks to whoever was talking about Higher Intelligence agency in the last week or two.. i decided to pick up their album colourform... i've only listened to it a couple times, but i really like it so far..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 01:29:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Gilham Subject: Leeds, UK, site of a thousand stars bursting On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Lisa Johnson wrote: > Re: Pale Saints - their first EP was recorded Nov/Dec 1988 Yes: BARGING INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD came out in 1989; and their first record, THE COMFORTS OF MADNESS, cameo out the next yr. ... Pale Saints are grrreat; well sometimes, at least :-) Once, I was in Leeds and I saw Meriel hanging out after a Town and Country Club gig: this was neat - since I was visiting, and they're one of my favourite bands ... Anyone out there happen to know whether they've packed it in? love, --Michael [wishing I was in the North of England right now; or the South, for that matter] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Apr 1998 00:41:19 -0600 From: Brad Nicholson Subject: Re: Leeds, UK, site of a thousand stars bursting >> Re: Pale Saints - their first EP was recorded Nov/Dec 1988 > > Yes: BARGING INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD came out in 1989; and their first > record, THE COMFORTS OF MADNESS, cameo out the next yr. ... > > Pale Saints are grrreat; well sometimes, at least :-) > > Once, I was in Leeds and I saw Meriel hanging out after a Town and Country > Club gig: this was neat - since I was visiting, and they're one of my > favourite bands ... > > Anyone out there happen to know whether they've packed it in? Yes, They packed it in shortly after the last album. Actually, while on the topic of the Pale Saints, where does "In Ribbons" fit into the scheme of things. It's the only one of their albums I have, and I've never really gotten into it. It's always struck me as kind of second rate. Is this pretty much typical of their sound? brad. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:27:52 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: ALISON on Much Music wow all i have seen is the altvideos version ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:45:27 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: useless lush trivia lush bsides are great i have the japanese release of spooky with falling in love and gods gift and the cookie ep and topolino are great i love all the lush albums but that is just me i love to see a band change sound lke they did ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 03:53:33 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: SF59, lush, etc. sorry but im a huge JAMC fan and stoned and dethroned was great some of the best songs they have done ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:14:45 +0300 From: Siim Kalder Subject: Re: Pale Saints In Ribbons At 00:41 26.04.98 -0600, brad wrote: >They packed it in shortly after the last album. Actually, while on the >topic of the Pale Saints, where does "In Ribbons" fit into the scheme of >things. It's the only one of their albums I have, and I've never really >gotten into it. It's always struck me as kind of second rate. Is this >pretty much typical of their sound? Umm, second rate? In Ribbons album was the first thing I ever heard by Pale Saints and it's still the best for me. It might be I'm the only one fancying it that much but I seriously doubt that. I think In Ribbons has the Pale Saints sound developed to the full and there are no scratches spoiling the perfect listening experience. Or something like that. I think Pale Saints has a pretty varied sound though - think of Kinky Love or Porpoise (from about the same period as In Ribbons?), but I have had no doubt until now, that In Ribbons is the _true_ Pale Saints, the sound they've worked to achieve. Fellow Pale Saints listeners?? Greetings, Siim K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 01:14:42 -0700 From: "Matt" Subject: Re: JAMC > sorry > but im a huge > JAMC fan and stoned and dethroned was great > some of the best songs they have done I definitely agree with you here. S&D gives great insight into just how good the JAMC are, and how solid their songs are. Without any feedback or distortion, the songs lay bare in front of you. Not only some of the best songs they've ever done, but some of the best songs *ever* done. The new stuff is really cool, but I don't think they'll ever top S&D... Erik asked when Munki (the new JAMC album) will be out...June 1 in the UK (Creation), June 2 in Germany (Creation/Epic/Sony Music), and June 9 in the US (Subpop). --Matt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:31:47 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: Pale Saints In Ribbons yes in ribbons is great and i love slowbuildings as well ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:32:44 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: JAMC yes i cant wait for munki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 05:37:28 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: piece of mind i had this discussion tonite with a fellow listee and was explaining to him that one needs to open their mind up to music to find great music one cant dismiss things as blaaah if one has never heard them i consider the following composers as fundamental people who changed the face of music. i will say that im only 20 but have a collection of 700 cds that reflects this list in no order at all: john cage phillip glass brian eno pink floyd the beatles the byrds miles davis john coltrane the velvet undergroun u2 (the unforgtable fire to begin with) my bloody valentine S and the banshees cocteau twins sonic youth radiohead portishead head led zepplin the smtihs david bowie bahuaus massive attack pixies nirvana and all though i hate them with a passion TOOL please send me hate mail!!! the way i see slowdive take the beatles pink floyd (for atmospherics) the byrds (i.e. eight miles high) cocteau twins my bloody valenine and a hint of miles davis now mojave 3 nick drake leonard cohen dylan the byrds (the later folk years) cocteau twins (victorialand) i see hints of all the above im sure some will disagree one odd connection between u2 and slowdive eno produced sing and here she comes eno worked with the following bands devo john cale u2 james slowidve massive attack this is my mindless rambling sorry steve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 05:49:20 EDT From: Suedehead0 Subject: Re: piece of mind why does such make this person necessarily closed minded? perhaps he/she has heard this music before and perhaps he/she just happens to dislike it. dislike does not make one inherently closed minded. or perhaps he/she is just lazy. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 11:04:51 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: Re: piece of mind what? no ramones? essential... punk was pretty much influenced by them... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 06:05:47 EDT From: Catchbreez Subject: Re: piece of mind yes punk to i dont see punk in slowdive i see jesus and mary chain though ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:57:27 +0100 From: davebp@postmaster.co.uk Subject: Re: help - shoe pie and david stack is a cunt shoe pie for $34?????? screw that!!!!! shoe pie was a cd that was given away FREE last year when you bought a pair of doc martens. there are copies all over the place here. they arent that expensive either!!!!! all the songs on the compilation are available elsewhere so why bother??? fucking david stack... $50 for the slowdive ep... bootlegs... $34 for shoe pie... how does he get away with it???? i cant wait to see how much he charges for the anakin compilation when he gets his hands on some copies... just remember kids... that is a free cd too!!!!!!!!! there are a shitload of copies floating around london at the moment... yeah. i agree with that matthew whatsisface wanker on the fact that its wrong that someone can "offer" you a slowdive cd single for $50 with a straight face. there is something really wrong with that... look i saw a copy of outside your room in a store near my place the other day for 7-. so if anyone wants it, they can have it for 7-. yeah, i'll go and get it if someone wants it, just send me the money and i'll mail it to you... but the catch is, you gotta pay postage. i dont mind going and getting it for someone, but i dont want it to cost me... just dont fucking pay $50 for it though... thats just stupid... sorry, im just in a foul mood today, but if anyone wants that cd then let me know ok? | what is the deal with shoe pie? i see that mr. stack is selling | it for $34, is it really worth that? anyway, any info would | be appreciated. thanks. | | sara ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 08:31:32 +0000 From: "wade@tapehouse.com" Subject: Re: Colfax Abbey so does anyone know if colfax abbey is still together? wade ------------------------------ End of Avalyn Digest Vol.98 #60 ********************************
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