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	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Re: dreamscape
	 Re: dreampoppish bands
	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Re: Serious offers need only apply...
	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Re: Slowdive list cd..
	 Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)
	 Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)
	 Re: dreamscape
	 Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)
	 Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)
	 Difference Engine Tour
	 Re: Difference Engine Tour
	 Gravity Probe E-zine
	 Re: Difference Engine Tour
	 Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)
	 FS: Souvlaki
	 Re: FS: Souvlaki

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 10:03:22 -0600
From: timethief@juno.com (Luis B. Abcede)
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:51:08 -0500 Gordon Brown  writes:

>I have a really good recording of the Sunday Flexi, you can hardly tell it
>is from a flexi. 

I have the Sunday flexi, but I can't say the quality is any good.  First
off, it's a thin piece of plastic that needs to be weighted down with a
penny (like those records they used to attach to cereal boxes).  Not to
mention, it doesn't sound great in my opinion, and I doubt you could
clean this one up much at all.  The recording itself sounds like a 6th or
7th generation copy.

>The Oslo recording seems to be the best quality Slowdive live tape out
>there. Does anyone have any means of cleaning it up for cd. If someone makes
>their own music on a 4-track or has a DAT or something maybe they could
>clean it up.

Oslo's excellent - this could be great to burn to CD, but it's not a long
set (roughly 35min).  I don't think it's necessary to use a 4-track or
DAT, but if someone has Sound Forge or even Cool Edit, they could clean
it up.  It should be fine to record straight from the deck to your HD via
soundcard line-in (44.1khz/16-bit/stereo).  MPEG-3 compression might be a
consideration as an alternative to CDA format.  That way, you could fit
significantly more data on the CD (think of 160 4min. tracks on a single
disc) and virtually no sound quality is lost, but you're limited to
running the CD from your computer only.  Well, whatever, it's up to
whoever has time.

Luis

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 07:38:22 -0500
From: Gordon Brown 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

About the Sunday Flexi...what I was getting at is that the tape I have
sounds fine. I have had tapes of it where it sounded all "wavy"..but this
one sounds like a normal 7".

About the Oslo tape...here's a quote from Frank Zappa "..cd is a less
forgiving medium. If the master is fucked up in any way its going to
show..." All I was getting at is that whoever transfers this to cd might
want to do a little work on it first. For instance I redid my tape so that
the bass wasn't so dominating. 
I heard about something that might do the trick...record the tape onto a
high quality video tape. This uses the full length of the video tape for the
sound and supposedly the results are extremely good.

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:02:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

> About the Sunday Flexi...what I was getting at is that the tape I have
> sounds fine. I have had tapes of it where it sounded all "wavy"..but this
> one sounds like a normal 7".

These songs appeared on a compilation cassette which came out before the
flexi, and probably sounded bettr, so the copy you have may be from that
compilation....

Daniel

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Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:20:18 -0500 (EST)
From: ALTONBARNS@aol.com
Subject: Re: dreamscape

In a message dated 08/11/97  14:39:13, you write:

> Anybody please send me a Dreamscape discography...thanks

I think all they have is the Blackflower 7" and some 12" which I just
ordered used - woohoo! >>

There is also a flexi, the title is something about a forest a think?

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 15:14:32 -0800
From: viet le 
Subject: Re: dreampoppish bands

Brad Nicholson wrote:

>  And Fuxa are not even remotely dreampop-ish.  There
> stuff is mainly moogs and other analog synths, with the acoustic guitars
> every now and then.

OK sorry.  Fuxa Not dreampop.  what am I thinking.  How about
"spacerock"?

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 23:24:19 PST
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

>I have a really good recording of the Sunday Flexi, you can hardly tell it
>is from a flexi. 
>
>The Oslo recording seems to be the best quality Slowdive live tape out
>there. Does anyone have any means of cleaning it up for cd. If someone makes
>their own music on a 4-track or has a DAT or something maybe they could
>clean it up.

Hi Gord
It's me again Did I give you the oslo gig????? I can redo it on a new 
tape deck I'm getting it converts analog to digital then reduces noise
ect digitaly then back to analog.It says it is the best tape deck on the 
market and it can improve old recordings if you want I can try it?????

Thanks
michael

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Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 23:34:54 PST
From: "michaelnicki barrett" 
Subject: Re: Serious offers need only apply...

Hi Daniel
It's me again I'm very interested in the cd your doing and would like to 
buy some space.Would a standard tape be alright to send the song on???? 
And how ong have we got????.As for the cheque I will send another with 
Fifty added to it for the cd(when you get back to me.
And if the other cheque turns up send it back ok I sent it two and a 
half weeks ago and I have grave fears for it(can't do much about it).
So get back to me soon and I'll send it on.

Thanks
Michael

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:04:59 -0500 (EST)
From: mike p 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

hi

i lurk alot, but i have to say something about this

> it up.  It should be fine to record straight from the deck to your HD via
> soundcard line-in (44.1khz/16-bit/stereo).  MPEG-3 compression might be a
> consideration as an alternative to CDA format.  That way, you could fit

NO NO NO NO!!! do not use mpeg-3 for this. why would you want to degrade
the sound more? go full on at 16 bit, 44.1 KHz uncompressed. 

also, if anyone had 2 copies of the flexi.. altho i have never tried it, i
pretty shure it would sound better if you glued the flexi very carefully,
and very tightly to something very hard and flat, like a piece of glass.
of course 2 flexis would have to be sacrificed since it's double sided.

mike

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 09:55:26 -0500
From: Gordon Brown 
Subject: Re: Slowdive list cd..

Does anybody know how to convert MPEG-3 into MPEG-2. I can play MPEG-2 but
not 3 and I was wondering if it was possible to convert 3 into 2.

At 01:04 PM 11/9/97 -0500, you wrote:

>hi
>
>i lurk alot, but i have to say something about this
>
>> it up.  It should be fine to record straight from the deck to your HD via
>> soundcard line-in (44.1khz/16-bit/stereo).  MPEG-3 compression might be a
>> consideration as an alternative to CDA format.  That way, you could fit
>
>NO NO NO NO!!! do not use mpeg-3 for this. why would you want to degrade
>the sound more? go full on at 16 bit, 44.1 KHz uncompressed. 
>
>also, if anyone had 2 copies of the flexi.. altho i have never tried it, i
>pretty shure it would sound better if you glued the flexi very carefully,
>and very tightly to something very hard and flat, like a piece of glass.
>of course 2 flexis would have to be sacrificed since it's double sided.
>
>mike

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:58:37 +1100 (EST)
From: Anthony John Cornish <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Subject: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)

Greetings all,

	OK, here's my offer to you all... I have a digital 16 track 
recording studio which could be used for mastering and compiling either :

	1. A collection of all slowdive material (which I own all normal 
release LP's and EP's + the Sunday Flexi)
	2. Any good bootlegs.

	I don't have a CD burner, but could compile the whole thing onto 
a DAT tape which I would then send to someone who had one. I believe 
there is someone on this list who is from Adelaide who owns one, which 
would help as i live in Melbourne.

	I ask no money, but only to whoever owns a close to original copy 
of the bootlegs to contact me.

	My thoughts for the compilation CD's (any flames welcome)

Disk 1 :
	Beach Song
	Take Me Down
	Slowdive
	Avalyn
	Morningrise
	She Calls
	Losing Today
	Shine
	Golden Hair
	Albatross
	So Tired
	Some Velvet Morning
	In Mind
	Good Day Sunshine
	Missing You
	Country Rain

Disk 2: (remixes CD)

	Avalyn II
	Catch The Breeze (Holding Our Breath mix)
	Mousaka Chaos
	In Mind (Bandulu Remix)
	In Mind (Reload Remix)

For the bootleg CD, the best bootlegs I have are :

Bochum 18/2/92 - Quality is not good, but you get Song 1, Bleed, Silver 
Screen and Joy, which are all excellent songs. I don't have the full 
bootleg either, missing Avalyn and She Calls (Anyone)

Oslo 18/10/93 - Quality is very good, i'm sure someone has a near 
perferct copy of this.

	Well there are my offers put on the table. Feel free to let me 
know your thoughts.

	Anthony.

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 14:19:56 -0500
From: Gordon Brown 
Subject: Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)

This is a really good idea. I did a trade for a cd someone made awhile back
with all most of the b-sides and the quality was amazing. Two 74 min. cds
could be filled with all the tracks mentioned (though not as listed), and
rare live tracks could also be added. I don't know too much about this kind
of thing but I believe that it is after 75 min. that the sound quality on cd
starts to suffer. 

All the live cuts mentioned do appear on other tapes besides Bochum. I have
"Bleed" recorded in Alsdorff which sounds better, but someone would have to
figure out a way of taking down the bass distortion.

>
>	My thoughts for the compilation CD's (any flames welcome)
>
>Disk 1 :
>	Beach Song
>	Take Me Down
>	Slowdive
>	Avalyn
>	Morningrise
>	She Calls
>	Losing Today
>	Shine
>	Golden Hair
>	Albatross
>	So Tired
>	Some Velvet Morning
>	In Mind
>	Good Day Sunshine
>	Missing You
>	Country Rain
>
>Disk 2: (remixes CD)
>
>	Avalyn II
>	Catch The Breeze (Holding Our Breath mix)
>	Mousaka Chaos
>	In Mind (Bandulu Remix)
>	In Mind (Reload Remix)
>
>For the bootleg CD, the best bootlegs I have are :
>
>Bochum 18/2/92 - Quality is not good, but you get Song 1, Bleed, Silver 
>Screen and Joy, which are all excellent songs. I don't have the full 
>bootleg either, missing Avalyn and She Calls (Anyone)
>
>Oslo 18/10/93 - Quality is very good, i'm sure someone has a near 
>perferct copy of this.
>
>	Well there are my offers put on the table. Feel free to let me 
>know your thoughts.
>
>	Anthony.

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Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 18:55:01 -0500 (EST)
From: Lorraine Lelis 
Subject: Re: dreamscape

i'll find out soon- but my friend has an awesome ep and i've dubbed a
couple of songs off of them... one song is called

"so far from belief" 

and it is sooooo heavenly.  no quite fuzzy, just light dreamy...

> Anybody please send me a Dreamscape discography...thanks

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 10:40:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)

>> My thoughts for the compilation CD's (any flames welcome)

I definately think as far as the live stuff goes, we need to have good
recordings of Bleed, Colours in Spin, and any other non-released tracks
there may be floating around on live tapes...

Daniel

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:03:27 +0000
From: wade@tapehouse.com
Subject: Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)

I agree with the non released, hard to find tracks, colours in spin, 
bleed, joy, silver screen, I think otherwise it will look like 
another David Stack compilation, and we all don't want that.  I do 
think the OSlo version of Machine Gun should be on it somewhere 
because it sounds soooo good.  I don't know if we could somehow fix 
or take out the high feedback noise you hear when Neil sings the 
chorus to Machine Gun or not though.  Take me down, and Beach song, 
and maybe even the audio version of Poetic frenzy on the second 
disc(which I have if someone wants that on there.)

wade@tapehouse.com

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 11:13:27 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Difference Engine Tour

Here's some tour dates for the Difference Engine - go check 'em out if you
live close by!!


Thursday, November 13th
LUNA LOUNGE
171 Ludlow, New York City

Friday, November 14th
PHANTASMAGORIA     http://www.phantasmagoria.com/
11319 Elkin Street, Wheaton, Maryland

Saturday, November 15th
CULTURED PEARL
Baltimore, Maryland

Sunday, November 16th
WHTG 106.3FM live on air
around 9 or 10PM
Asbury Park, NJ

Daniel

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:59:36 +0000
From: wade@tapehouse.com
Subject: Re: Difference Engine Tour

what is the difference engine?
what do they sound like?

wade@tapehouse.com

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:31:36 +0000
From: Mitch 
Subject: Gravity Probe E-zine

Hello everyone,

My name is Mitch, and I am starting an E-zine called Gravity Probe. The
zine is going to feature, but will not be limited to, dreampop/shoegazer
type music.  We will also feature experimental/spacerock, gothic, and
indie-pop form all over the world.  We will also have band interviews and
live show and record reviews.  

I am looking for any bands or artists who would like to contribute
anything.  You can send tapes/cds of your band/recording project, press
kits, photos and bio...If you send it, I will definately review it in the
zine. 

I'm also looking for any recent live show reviews, or band interviews.  

The first digital issue will hopefully be out in early December.  If you
would like to contribute anything, please email me at:  gravityprobe@usa.net

Thanks,
-Mitch

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 19:40:22 -0500 (EST)
From: Claire De Leon! 
Subject: Re: Difference Engine Tour

> what is the difference engine?
> what do they sound like?

They're a guy/girl duo who have been around for a few years and play some
nice stuff - hate to liken them to anything, but they are somewhat dreamy
and have good pop sensibility!

Daniel

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:49:52 +1100 (EST)
From: Anthony John Cornish <932228@bud.cc.swin.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Slowdive Bootlegs @ CD's (fwd)

> I definately think as far as the live stuff goes, we need to have good
> recordings of Bleed, Colours in Spin, and any other non-released tracks
> there may be floating around on live tapes...

	To the best of my knowledge, the unreleased tracks are Beach 
Song, Take Me Down, Song 1, Bleed, Silver Screen, Joy and Colours In 
Spin. Shine was at one stage called 'Song 1' for the BBC session. The 
last five mentioned I have only seen in a live format, but I think they 
may have been recorded for the Souvlaki sessions and shelved.

	My theory is that Neil started to change his direction away from 
the wall-of-noise style (as evident in these songs), before the eventual 
recording of Souvlaki. And then changed again (for 5 EP) and again (for 
pygmailion). Following this line of thinking, I can't see Mojave 3 
sticking to the acoustic vein for much more than one or two more albums.

	Anthony.

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:16:59 +0200
From: Peter Peltonen 
Subject: FS: Souvlaki

I have an extra copy of Slowdive's CD Souvlaki for sale for 25$.
If you're interested email to the address below:

pisara@dystopia.fi
Peter

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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 10:47:46 -0800 (PST)
From: "Kevin W. Wood" 
Subject: Re: FS: Souvlaki

ummm...cant you still buy this in the stores?

or is it the import double-CD version?

>I have an extra copy of Slowdive's CD Souvlaki for sale for 25$.
>If you're interested email to the address below:
>
>pisara@dystopia.fi
>Peter

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