Digest

Vol.4 #05

January 26th, 1997

There are 36 messages totalling 1099 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Sin's Poll 1996 - Results! (24)
  2. Non-Scan: Moonshake (3)
  3. MOST PROMISING NEW ACT(S)- superswirls
  4. Eggstone on ZTV
  5. A video coming your way...
  6. Cardigans (WAS: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!) (3)
  7. Open at yr own risk (2)
  8. Klubb Indigo / Speaker

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 Special Digest #2 (of 3) due to the big "1996 Poll" discussion going on.
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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 02:44:37 +0100
From: "Jens Agren" 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>----------------------------------------
>E. THE BAND(S) WE COULDN'T LIVE WITHOUT:
>----------------------------------------
>5. MY BLOODY VALENTINE

YES! Still going strong!

>-------------------------------------
>H. MOST FANCIED INDIEPOP PERSONALITY:
>-------------------------------------
>1. EBBOT LUNDBERG - SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES

When did Ebbot turn Indiepop?

Over my dead body!

// Jens Agren - jensa@loranga.df.lth.se

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:51:50 -0800
From: xander@sirius.com
Subject: Re: Non-Scan: Moonshake

>Hmm, as people helped out the last time I asked about a band on the list,
>I thought I'd give it a shot with another band: Moonshake. They play with
>Archers Of Loaf here in Linkoping, and all I have ever heard is one song
>on a "Independent Top 20" compilation CD from 1992. I didn't realize they
>were still around.. Do they still sound the same, kind of Sultans of Ping
>FC-like, or have they ... umm, gotten better?

I don't know any of your references there, but...
Moonshake released another album last year, but not on Too Pure.  Some
involvement from one of the Stereolab women, but again, that's not my
department.  I haven't heard anything that Moonshake have done since
Margaret left to form Laika which I liked a lot better.  But as far as
Moonshake goes, I adored their "Big Good Angel" ep.

Alexander

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 09:46:01 +0100
From: ludde@kore.lk.se (Ludvig Borgne)
Subject: Non-Scan: Moonshake

> Hmm, as people helped out the last time I asked about a band on the list,
> I thought I'd give it a shot with another band: Moonshake. They play with
> Archers Of Loaf here in Linkoping, and all I have ever heard is one song
> on a "Independent Top 20" compilation CD from 1992. I didn't realize they
> were still around.. Do they still sound the same, kind of Sultans of Ping
> FC-like, or have they ... umm, gotten better?

Moonshake was formed by can't-remember-his-first-name Callaghan
(ex-Wolfhounds) and Maragret Fiedler in 1990. Released one, very
My Bloody Valentine influenced, EP ("First") on Creation, and then
moved on to Too Pure, where they released two singles, one album ("Eva
Luna") and one mini album ("Big Good Angel"). Then Fiedler left to
form Laika with Guy Fixsen, who produced most of the Moonshake records.
Callaghan continued as Moonshake and released one album on Too Pure,
and last year an album on some US label, with no European distribution
(to my knowledge at least).

I haven't heard the last album, but the last Too Pure album is pretty
interesting, mainly built up from strange samples, I'd guess. The cover
says something about it being "absolutely guitar free". Can't really
think of anyhting to compare it to, though. And I have no idea what it
could sound like live. Certainly wouldn't miss it if they played in
Stockholm, though.

/Ludde

PS. And, no, they have never (to my knowledge) sounded anything like the
    Sultans Of Ping FC...
PPS. Saw the video for Semi-naked yesterday. Pretty boring IMHO.

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Date: 23 Jan 1997 09:59:08 +0100
From: Robert Cumming 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

In article <199701222332.AAA24129@harpenden.lysator.liu.se>,
chief@lysator.liu.se wrote:
>             Scandinavian Indie Poll 1996
> -------------------------------------
> H. MOST FANCIED INDIEPOP PERSONALITY:
> -------------------------------------
> 1. EBBOT LUNDBERG - SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES
> 2. LOU BARLOW - SEBADOH
> 3. LIAM - OASIS

Bloody hell!  Either the women of scan-indie were overrepresented in
the poll (which I doubt) or I'm not by any means the only gay/bi guy
here... :)

Robert, would have picked Thomas \berg probably

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:29:43 +0100
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

jens Agren said:

>>-------------------------------------
>>H. MOST FANCIED INDIEPOP PERSONALITY:
>>-------------------------------------
>>1. EBBOT LUNDBERG - SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES
>
>When did Ebbot turn Indiepop?
>
>Over my dead body!

when/why did he turn into a JESUS look a like?

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 10:16:12 +0100
From: etxsahm@cyber.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

> ---------------
> B. BEST SINGLE:
> ---------------
> 1. THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"                         <--------
> 2. SUEDE - "Trash"
> 3. BOB HUND - "Ist{llet F|r Musik: F|rvirring"
> 4. FIDGET - "Semi-Naked"                              <--------

> ----------------------------
> D. BEST SCANDINAVIAN SINGLE:
> ----------------------------
> 1. FIDGET - "Semi-Naked"                              <--------
> 2. BOB HUND - "Istället För Musik: Förvirring"
> 3. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - "Homo Habilis Blues EP"
> 4. LOOSEGOATS - "Country Crock"
> 5. FIRESIDE - "Left Rustle"
>    THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"                         <--------

There's something fishy going on here (or in Swedish, here's a
dog buried). Cardigans at the top for the overall "Best Single",
but beaten by five other Swedish bands for the "Best Scan Single"
category. And the other way around for Fidget... I'm confused  X-|

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:46:44 +0100
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>> ---------------
>> B. BEST SINGLE:
>> ---------------
>> 1. THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"                         <--------
>> 2. SUEDE - "Trash"
>> 3. BOB HUND - "Ist{llet F|r Musik: F|rvirring"
>> 4. FIDGET - "Semi-Naked"                              <--------
>
>> ----------------------------
>> D. BEST SCANDINAVIAN SINGLE:
>> ----------------------------
>> 1. FIDGET - "Semi-Naked"                              <--------
>> 2. BOB HUND - "Ist”llet F–r Musik: F–rvirring"
>> 3. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - "Homo Habilis Blues EP"
>> 4. LOOSEGOATS - "Country Crock"
>> 5. FIRESIDE - "Left Rustle"
>>    THE CARDIGANS - "Lovefool"                         <--------
>
>There's something fishy going on here (or in Swedish, here's a
>dog buried). Cardigans at the top for the overall "Best Single",
>but beaten by five other Swedish bands for the "Best Scan Single"
>category. And the other way around for Fidget... I'm confused  X-|

No fish here....or buried dog. A lot of people out side Scandinavia voted
for Cardigans in category B so they got the most votes there....

Then a lot of people voted for fidget in category D, fidget won big time!

any questions,
totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:51:39 +0100
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject: MOST PROMISING NEW ACT(S)- superswirls

>-----------------------------
>F. MOST PROMISING NEW ACT(S):
>-----------------------------
>1. FIDGET
>2. GENEVA
>3. SHALLOW SOUNDWAVE
>4. LOUSY
>   SUPERSWIRLS
>   BIS
>   MONOSTAR
>
>Comments: ....Blur, Eggstone, Smiths, Elvis.....

Superswirls are playing at STUDION, sthlm tonight, thursday!
If anyone are going, please tell the list if they where any
good....sometimes they are!

p.s I like to see Smiths and Elvis on the same bill in Las Vegas, it would
be nice seeing Morrissey and Elvis singing 'You are the one for me fatty'
since they both have gained some weight lately.....d.s

totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 13:10:11 +0100
From: etxsahm@cyber.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Non-Scan: Moonshake

ludde@kore.lk.se (Ludvig Borgne) scribbled:

> Moonshake was formed by can't-remember-his-first-name Callaghan
> (ex-Wolfhounds) and Maragret Fiedler in 1990. Released one, very
> My Bloody Valentine influenced, EP ("First") on Creation, and then
> moved on to Too Pure, where they released two singles, one album ("Eva
> Luna") and one mini album ("Big Good Angel"). Then Fiedler left to
> form Laika with Guy Fixsen, who produced most of the Moonshake records.

I only have the EVA LUNA album, which has its ups and down, but in general
I'd say it's a pretty happening album. Laika is better though. I always 
thought the frontman smacked somewhat of Nick Cave back in the old days
with Birthday Party, or perhaps of John Lydon (or a mix of the two)...
there's that same vocal mannerism. But the music is harder to describe.

> Certainly wouldn't miss it if they played in Stockholm, though.

Why miss them at all? Linkoping is only 3 hours away. What do you say,
we borrow your dad's car and head southbound on the E4. I'm sure a few
more list subscribers from Stockholm would join... Seriously, I'm in.
Then we could meet up with the great Chief too... yip-yip-yip hook-a-hey...
smoke the pipes of peace, drink fire water, dance around the totem, chase 
the squaws at Herrgarn...  hooga-chagga!

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:40:59 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

At 10.29 97-01-23, Totte Pop wrote:
>jens Agren said:
>
>>>-------------------------------------
>>>H. MOST FANCIED INDIEPOP PERSONALITY:
>>>-------------------------------------
>>>1. EBBOT LUNDBERG - SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES
>>
>>When did Ebbot turn Indiepop?
>>
>>Over my dead body!
>
> when/why did he turn into a JESUS look a like?

i never understand that it was that ebbot looked like... i thougth that
jesus was a skinny guy ;o) //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:31:16 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>>-------------------------------------
>>H. MOST FANCIED INDIEPOP PERSONALITY:
>>-------------------------------------
>>1. EBBOT LUNDBERG - SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES
>
>When did Ebbot turn Indiepop?

There's too much rock n roll over that guy, so the answer is: he will never
do that ;o)

//j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:31:11 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>A. BEST ALBUM:
>--------------
>1. STEREOLAB - "Emperor Tomato Ketchup"
>2. R.E.M. - "New Adventures In Hi-fi"
>3. SUEDE - "Coming Up"
>4. HOLIDAY - "Ready, Steady, Go"
>5. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - "Welcome To The Infant Freebase"
>   BOB HUND - "Omslag: Martin Kann"
>   ELECTRONIC - "Raise The Pressure"
>   DEVINE COMEDY - "Casanova"

Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album, and
I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.

>-----------------------------------
>G. MOST AMAZING LIVE EXPERIENCE(S):
>-----------------------------------
>1. KENT
>2. BOB HUND
>3. TEENAGE FANCLUB
>4. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES
>   JON SPENCER BLUES EXPLOSION
>   LIBERATOR
>   YVONNE
>   CARDIGANS

Is it only me who thinks that Iggy Pop is the wildest toughest and always the
most amazing live act ever on a stage?

>-----------------------
>J. BEST MUSIC MAGAZINE:
>-----------------------
>1. NME
>2. POP
>3. MELODY MAKER
>4. SOUND AFFECTS
>5. N\JESGUIDEN

POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.

>----------------------
>L. BEST MUSICAL EVENT:
>----------------------
>1. LOLLIPOP
>2. HULTSFRED FESTIVAL
>3. ROSKILDE FESTIVAL

This is impossible... Roskilde is THE festival in Europe... every other
festival is just a weak xerox copy of Roskilde. Did only people under
15 vote or what? ;o)

>---------------
>M. THIS SUCKED:
>---------------
>1. OASIS
>2. JUMPER
>3. MACARENA
>4. RIDE SPLIT
>5. MUSIC
>   MY FORMER GIRLFRIEND

The only thing I come up with that sucked more than my former girlfriend
is KISS and all their fans ;o) //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 16:20:41 +0100
From: etxsahm@cyber.ericsson.se (Marten Sahlen)
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se moaned:

> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.

You see Iggy, this was a poll conducted among the subscribers of this
mailing list. If YOU had cast your vote for Smashing Pumpkins, it 
possibly could have made a difference and moved that (imho overrated)
band into the top list. If you did not vote, do not complain. 
Apparently a whole lot of list people do not agree with your sentiments.
Apparently a whole lot of list people did not like the albums I put on
my lists either, but I accept that without bitching.
 
> only me who thinks that Iggy Pop is the wildest toughest and always the
> most amazing live act ever on a stage?

I can agree with you there, but once again... when all votes were counted,
it appeared that many people thought Kent was thee outstanding live act of
1996, so there's no point in moaning about that now. History will prove
these people wrong, but that's another matter.

> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.

Once again, Iggy... we'd all appreciate if you exercised your right to
remain silent in a matter where you did not speak up when it counted. 

> This is impossible... Roskilde is THE festival in Europe... every other
> festival is just a weak xerox copy of Roskilde. Did only people under
> 15 vote or what? ;o)

I hate to repeat myself, but...  
Besides, I know at least one thirtysomething who voted.

> The only thing I come up with that sucked more than my former girlfriend
> is KISS and all their fans ;o)

What exactly is that smiley you are using, a pigface?

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 17:22:56 +0100
From: "Jens Agren" 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

On Thu, 23 Jan 97 16:20:41 +0100, Marten Sahlen wrote:

>iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se moaned:
>
>> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
>> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.
>
>You see Iggy, this was a poll conducted among the subscribers of this
>mailing list. If YOU had cast your vote for Smashing Pumpkins, it 
>possibly could have made a difference and moved that (imho overrated)
>band into the top list. If you did not vote, do not complain. 
>Apparently a whole lot of list people do not agree with your sentiments.
>Apparently a whole lot of list people did not like the albums I put on
>my lists either, but I accept that without bitching.

Hey Martin, calm down!

>> Only me who thinks that Iggy Pop is the wildest toughest and always the
>> most amazing live act ever on a stage?
>
>I can agree with you there, but once again... when all votes were counted,
>it appeared that many people thought Kent was thee outstanding live act of
>1996, so there's no point in moaning about that now. History will prove
>these people wrong, but that's another matter.

Who's moaning? You or him?

>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
>
>Once again, Iggy... we'd all appreciate if you exercised your right to
>remain silent in a matter where you did not speak up when it counted. 

Who are you to talk this crap. Get off Martin or say you're sorry to Iggy!
Did he step on your toes?

>> This is impossible... Roskilde is THE festival in Europe... every other
>> festival is just a weak xerox copy of Roskilde. Did only people under
>> 15 vote or what? ;o)
>
>I hate to repeat myself, but...  
>Besides, I know at least one thirtysomething who voted.

No comment.

>> the only thing i come up with that sucked more than my former girlfriend
>> are KISS and all their fans ;o)
>
>What exactly is that smiley you are using, a pigface?

I hope you're trying to be funny. A good try but a failure.

// Jens Agren

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:47:49 +0000
From: beluga.tsg@stockholm.mail.telia.com
Subject: Eggstone on ZTV

Hi all!
Lots of talk about Eggstone just now, so I thought I'd pass on some info
I've seen:

28th jan     ZTV:s "Musikmagasinet" is with the Swedish pop band Eggstone

thats all folks!

Trevor
Beluga Music

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:24:36 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>>> Only me who thinks that Iggy Pop is the wildest toughest and always the
>>> most amazing live act ever on a stage?
>>
>> I can agree with you there, but once again... when all votes were counted,
>> it appeared that many people thought Kent was thee outstanding live act of
>> 1996, so there's no point in moaning about that now. History will prove
>> these people wrong, but that's another matter.
>
> Who's moaning? You or him?

just asking myself the same question...

>>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
>>
>> Once again, Iggy... we'd all appreciate if you exercised your right to
>> remain silent in a matter where you did not speak up when it counted.
>
> Who are you to talk this crap. Get off Martin or say you're sorry to Iggy!
> Did he step on your toes?

I must have done that... I mean does Martin know Andres or is Martin Sahlen
just a undercover name for Andres? ;o)

>>> The only thing I come up with that sucked more than my former girlfriend
>>> is KISS and all their fans ;o)
>>
>> What exactly is that smiley you are using, a pigface?
>
> I hope you're trying to be funny. A good try but a failure.

Don't bother Jens, he made me laugh a lot. Thanks for your comments
anyhow //'pigface' Nilsson ;o)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:24:25 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

>> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
>> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.
>
> You see Iggy, this was a poll conducted among the subscribers of this
> mailing list. If YOU had cast your vote for Smashing Pumpkins, it
> possibly could have made a difference and moved that (imho overrated)
> band into the top list. If you did not vote, do not complain.
> Apparently a whole lot of list people do not agree with your sentiments.
> Apparently a whole lot of list people did not like the albums I put on
> my lists either, but I accept that without bitching.

Well first of all I think I got on this mailinglist too late to vote, anyhow
I missed it somehow. I was suprised due to the fact that SP's album has been
on every top 10 list I have seen this year. Isn't it legal to say what I think?
You don't accept my point of view without bitching... I didn't say that the
people who voted are stupid or wrong or anything like that.

>> only me that thinks that iggy pop are the wildest toughest and always the
>> most amazing live act ever on a stage?
>
> I can agree with you there, but once again... when all votes were counted,
> it appeared that many people thought Kent was thee outstanding live act of
> 1996, so there's no point in moaning about that now. History will prove
> these people wrong, but that's another matter.

Read my comment above, that fits in here too.

>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
>
> Once again, Iggy... we'd all appreciate if you exercised your right to
> remain silent in a matter where you did not speak up when it counted.

Aha... why are you here in the first place if you don't want any kind of
discussion at all? Or is it illegal with a discussion on this mailinglist?

>> This is impossible... Roskilde is THE festival in europe... Every other
>> festival is just a weak xerox copy of Roskilde. Did only people under
>> 15 vote or what? ;o)
>
> I hate to repeat myself, but...
> Besides, I know at least one thirtysomething that voted.

I hate when you do that too... ;o)

>> The only thing I come up with that sucked more than my former girlfriend
>> is KISS and all their fans ;o)
>
> What exactly is that smiley you are using, a pigface?

And as always if you can't find an argument, get personal instead...

The only thing I have to say is a quote from frank zappa (no I didn't like
his music, just his attitude) "does humor belong in music?" Obviously not in
Marten Sahlens world... //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:53:40 +0100
From: micre215@knuten.liu.se (Michael Rehnstrom)
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se

>>A. BEST ALBUM:
>>--------------
>>1. STEREOLAB - "Emperor Tomato Ketchup"
>>2. R.E.M. - "New Adventures In Hi-fi"
>>3. SUEDE - "Coming Up"
>>4. HOLIDAY - "Ready, Steady, Go"
>>5. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - "Welcome To The Infant Freebase"
>>   BOB HUND - "Omslag: Martin Kann"
>>   ELECTRONIC - "Raise The Pressure"
>>   DEVINE COMEDY - "Casanova"
>
> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.

I'm not quite sure about this, but wasn't it released in 1995? I think so,
'cause I guess it would have appeared on any "best of '96"-list otherwise,
but I haven't seen it somewhere. It certainly was some time since I first
heard any songs from it.

I hope I'm not the next guy to be executed here now. Hey guys, calm down a
bit. Music is certainly an important part of life, but I can't see that it
should be important enough to become unfriendly with each other.

/Micke

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:43:56 +0100
From: totte.pop@swipnet.se (Totte Pop)
Subject:  Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

Hi,
I love the action on the list... maybe we should have polls all the time....
Keep it up. Sing your life. Get emotional. Take a stand. Make a difference.
Have it your way. Get your voice heard.

It takes two to tango you know!
Do it, but be nice...:-)
give me a price,
totte

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:17:06 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

At 19.43 97-01-23, Totte Pop wrote:
> Hi,
> I love the action on the list... maybe we should have polls all the time...

Good idea :o)

> Keep it up. Sing your life. Get emotional. Take a stand. Make a difference.
> Have it your way. Get your voice heard.

I couldnt agree more.

> It takes two to tango you know!
> Do it, but be nice...:-)

A flame war every now and then lights up the everyday life :o) //j.nilssom

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:17:11 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

At 18.53 97-01-23, Michael Rehnstrom wrote:
>iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
>
>>>A. BEST ALBUM:
>>>--------------
>>>1. STEREOLAB - "Emperor Tomato Ketchup"
>>>2. R.E.M. - "New Adventures In Hi-fi"
>>>3. SUEDE - "Coming Up"
>>>4. HOLIDAY - "Ready, Steady, Go"
>>>5. SOUNDTRACK OF OUR LIVES - "Welcome To The Infant Freebase"
>>>   BOB HUND - "Omslag: Martin Kann"
>>>   ELECTRONIC - "Raise The Pressure"
>>>   DEVINE COMEDY - "Casanova"
>>
>> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
>> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.
>
> I'm not quite sure about this, but wasn't it released in 1995? I think so,
> 'cause I guess it would have appeared on any "best of '96"-list otherwise,
> but I haven't seen it somewhere. It certainly was some time since I first
> heard any songs from it.

You might be right... I only got the vinyl version of it and the album I
got has 1996 printed all over it. But I think it's the 2nd pressing I
got. //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:27:02 +0100
From: Torsvall 
Subject: Re: A video coming your way...

elin wrote:

> In tomorrow's Voxpop they'll be showing Fidget's Semi-naked
> and I just thought you should know that so that we all
> can call and vote for it and it'll be number one and Fidget
> will no more semi-famous... or something like that... :)
>
> Anyway, don't miss it, I know I'll not be able to see it but
> if you do as I say and vote for it, I can see it next week.
> That would be kind...
>
> No... Serious... Don't miss it.
> Elin

I guess a lot of people heard your call, 'cause Fidget ended up at
third place so it actually will be showed again next week. I'm
amazed.

Jonas

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:28:24 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Forsberg 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

Last word:

>>> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
>>> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.
>>
>> I'm not quite sure about this, but wasn't it released in 1995? 

My best friend had it in Halloween 1995 - it played at his party. So yes,
it was a 1995 album.

//Chris

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:37:18 +0100 (MET)
From: Lisa Mellegard 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

Hi!

About the argument between iggy and Marten. I find it interesting to
read about what people think and why, so Marten please quit complaining.

I wonder, what makes the Cardigans indie?
-- 
Lisa (nuff said!)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:53:05 +0100 (MET)
From: Lisa Mellegard 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

Hi again
 
iggy said:
>>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
 
Out of curiosity, who are the two other that are even worse.
I don't mind Andres Lokko, though.
 
Lisa 

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:59:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Chris Forsberg 
Subject: Cardigans (WAS: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!)

On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, [iso-8859-1] Lisa Mellegård wrote:

> I wonder, what makes the Cardigans indie?
> -- 
> Lisa (nuff said!)

Lemme take a stab at that one:

When they started out, they were on an independent label. Now, a few years
later, even though they are more popular and have a worldwide record deal
and are on Mercury in the states, people still generally would put them in
the category of "indie" since they haven't radically changed their sound
or anything - it's still pretty much the same band. The guitars are a bit
harsher but besides that it's still the same sound (basically). And let's
face it: the Cardigans are hardly U2. They *are* on the rise, but they are
far from a household name here in the states, even among most fans of
alternative rock. Isn't it pretty much the same thing in Sweden? (just
wondering)

//Chris

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:14:12 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

At 15.28 97-01-23, Chris Forsberg wrote:
>Last word:
>
>>>> Where's Smashing Pumpkins "Mellon Collie" album??? That's the best album,
>>>> and I'm very suprised that I didn't find it here.
>>>
>>> I'm not quite sure about this, but wasn't it released in 1995?
>
> My best friend had it in Halloween 1995 - it played at his party. So yes,
> it was a 1995 album.

I try to buy all albums I get on vinyl and I couldnt find it until March 96
I think on vinyl here in Sweden, but as mentioned before I got the 2nd
pressing that got #6759 of an lim. ed. of 5000 and got 1996 printed. So I
guess I made a mistake about the release date in Sweden, or if it got a
diffrent release date here. //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:14:27 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

> About the argument between iggy and Marten. I find it interesting to
> read about what people think and why, so Marten please quit complaining.

I think that too.

> I wonder, what makes the Cardigans indie?

Good question (even thought I don't have an answer to it) it makes me
wonder what makes any band an indie band. Not that many bands are on an
label that's actually independent these days, which I guess was the
explanation earlier on. //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:02:48 +0200 (EET)
From: Timo Riitamaa 
Subject: Open at yr own risk

Seeing the name Iggy brought to my mind rock'n roll history. for some
strange reason (really!) I have a feeling that a lot of people are listening
to their music without roots.... I mean, every week I hear a minimum of five
times about how the N band came up with something new and amazing... when I
try to tell that the actual formula to this thing is: "Husker Du + Pixies =
Nirvana + eMpTyV hype = grunge" they say "fuck you!" It's impossible for me
to understand how somebody can say what is good(ish) music if they have no
knowledge of how things came to be like that.... I'm talking about
originality. Creativeness. Geniousness.... and all kinds of things like
that. But I propably look at music a little differently than most of the
people on this list.... Some people can listen to music just because it's
fun and enjoyable (Cardigans) when I won't be happy with that 'cause I've
already been listening to the Beatles and I'm propably going somewhere more
freaked out, challenging and perverse (Dead C., Natisuta Hetekata) Ummm... I
have no idea why I wrote this message. I'll just shut up and listen to
Velvet Underground, early Stooges, Nick Drake and Ornette Coleman
(hint! hint!)

Timo

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:29:35 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

At 21.53 97-01-23, Lisa Mellegård wrote:

> Hi again
>
> iggy said:
>
>>>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>>>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
>
> Out of curiosity, who are the two other that are even worse.
> I don't mind Andres Lokko, though.

Kristina Adolfsson and Mans Ivarsson. The reason I dislike Lokko is the way
most of the interviews I read that he wrote are too full of egoism in my
opinion. The only two I can remember now was one with Neil Young and one
with Keith Richards (from some of the 2 first POP that was made I think)
where it took like the first 1/3 of the text to tell stories about how he
got to the hotel, what the cab driver said to him, what the other journalists
said etc... and the last 1/3 was the same. My intrest in an interview is what
the artist got to say, not what Lokko's cab drivers got to say...

About Kristina, she wrote a book about London some years ago and claimed that
one rock club in London (I think it was Dingwalls) had changed completley
to an Acid House club or something, but the truth was that they played
Acid House one day every week...

Mans Ivarsson reviewed Iggy Pop's gig in Gothenburg 94 and the _only_
thing he complained about was that Iggy played his old song first and
the songs from the latest album last... And that that was a bad thing too...
So he just gave him ** (2) even though it seems like he likes everything
else...

I know there are more things I got hung up on when it comes to these 3
journalists but these were the only things that I could find in my memory.

//j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:00:55 +0100
From: iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se
Subject: Re: Open at yr own risk

At 23.02 97-01-23, Timo Riitamaa wrote:
> Seeing the name Iggy brought to my mind rock'n roll history. for some
> strange reason (really!) I have a feeling that a lot of people are listening
> to their music without roots.... I mean, every week i hear a minimum of five
> times about how the N band came up with something new and amazing...

I often get the same kind of feeling. I used to be a punk when I was
younger, but today's punk dont know anything about when and why punk
started. They heard of the Pistols and maybe Clash too but hardly not
anything else.

> I'm talking about originality. Creativeness. Geniousness.... and all kinds
> of things like that. But I propably look at music a little differently than
> most of the people on this list.... Some people can listen to music just
> because it's fun and enjoyable (Cardigans) when I won't be happy with that
> 'cause I've already been listening to the Beatles and I'm propably going
> somewhere more freaked out, challenging and perverse (Dead C., Natisuta
> Hetekata) Ummm... I have no idea why I wrote this message. I'll just shut
> up and listen to Velvet Underground, early Stooges, Nick Drake and Ornette
> Coleman (hint! hint!)

Well I do prefer orginality, but I still rather listen to a good 'copy cat'
band then some music that I don't like but still have originality. Keep on
writing and never shut up :o) //j.nilsson

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:08:37 +0100 (CET)
From: Martin Eksten 
Subject: Re: Cardigans

On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Chris Forsberg wrote:

> Lemme take a stab at that one:
> 
> When they started out, they were on an independent label. Now, a few years
> later, even though they are more popular and have a worldwide record deal
> and are on Mercury in the states, people still generally would put them in
> the category of "indie" since they haven't radically changed their sound
> or anything - it's still pretty much the same band. The guitars are a bit
> harsher but besides that it's still the same sound (basically). And let's
> face it: the Cardigans are hardly U2. They *are* on the rise, but they are
> far from a household name here in the states, even among most fans of
> alternative rock. Isn't it pretty much the same thing in Sweden? (just
> wondering)

Just out of curiousity (and this is _not_ a flame!), if the Cardigans
changed their sound would you think they had "sold out"? Face it, sooner
or later they will have to change it, at least to some extent, if they
want to stay popular.

(Note. I actually think the "sold out"-expression is bullshit)

Martin

Ps. Since Iggy brought it up. Surely, the worst Swedish music journalist
must be Eva Kvanta!

Martin Eksten (eksten@df.lth.se)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:21:19 +0100 (CET)
From: Martin Eksten 
Subject: Klubb Indigo / Speaker

Here's the winter program on Klubb Indigo (that's Club Indigo, for you
foreigners! ;) at Blekingska nationen (a student pub/disco) in Lund:

January,  24: Speaker
January,  30: Bob Hund
February,  7: Fidget (prel)
February, 14: Page
February, 21: DJ Sarah Crackwell (St. Etienne) (prel)
February, 28: Local bands. Bent Spanner, Arty Spanner, Dipper, Bess
March,     7: Fly (ex Easy)
March,    14: DJ Ian Brown (the Stone Roses)

Tba: Yvonne, Fivel, Vacuum, Silver Bullet

Speaking of Speaker (no pun intended, I swear!), has anybody bought their
album? What do you think about it?

Martin
Martin Eksten (eksten@df.lth.se)

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:37:53 +0100
From: jan.jonson@communique.se
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

iggystooge.livevid@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:

> I got the 2nd pressing that got #6759 of an lim. ed. of 5000 and got 1996
> printed. So I guess I made a mistake about the release date in Sweden, or
> if it got a diffrent release date here. //j.nilsson

How can you have got the #6759 of a limited edition of 5000 copies?

Isabella

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Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 23:39:07 +0100
From: "Jens Agren" 
Subject: Re: Sin's Poll 1996 - Results!

On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:53:05 +0100 (MET), Lisa Mellegård wrote:

>> POP is just too much... Andres Lokko is the third worst music journalist
>> in Sweden. Sound Affects is so much better and interesting.
> 
> Out of curiosity, who are the two other that are even worse.
> I don't mind Andres Lokko, though.

My vote goes for Jesper Larsson of Sound Affects fame. Though he writes
quite decent anyway.

// Jens

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Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 00:10:00 +0100
From: "Jens Agren" 
Subject: Re: Cardigans

Ok my Phive cents:

On Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:08:37 +0100 (CET), Martin Eksten wrote:

> Just out of curiousity (and this is _not_ a flame!), if the Cardigans
> changed their sound would you think they had "sold out"? 

It's not that easy. It all depends on what sound they change. If Cardigans'
next album will sound as f.ex. Einsturzende Neubauten I really don't
think anyone could or would claim they 'sold out'. However if they changed
to a more simple and soft sound attracting my mother's and father's minds,
I would definetely be suspicious. (Ok, depends on who's father and mother
it is, but I hope you understand.)

> Face it, sooner or later they will have to change it, at least to some
> extent, if they want to stay popular.

What I want to add is that a really creative band always change. The thing
is to become a good songwriter but with different angles to music in different
times and different state of minds. (Ok way abstract.) It's an evolution 
I think Cardigans are getting better and better. Even though I didn't say
they are good.

> (Note. I actually think the "sold out"-expression is bullshit)

Sorry. I don't agree. Explain to me why you think the 'sold out' term 
is bullshit. Please.

// Jens

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