From scotth@skuld.corp.sgi.com Sun Nov 16 06:07:40 1997 Received: from sgi.sgi.com by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id GAA04416; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:07:38 GMT Received: from palladium.corp.sgi.com ([198.29.75.13]) by sgi.sgi.com (950413.SGI.8.6.12/970507) via ESMTP id WAA06597 for <@external-mail-relay.sgi.com:mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu>; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:02:33 -0800 env-from (scotth@skuld.corp.sgi.com) Received: from skuld.corp.sgi.com by palladium.corp.sgi.com via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1502/911001.SGI) for <@palladium.corp.sgi.com:mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> id WAA08180; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:02:32 -0800 Received: (from scotth@localhost) by skuld.corp.sgi.com (970903.SGI.8.8.7/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) id WAA08243; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 22:02:24 -0800 (PST) To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... References: <199711151835.SAA03285@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> Organization: Home, Sweet Home X-Disclaimer: These are my opinions only, I cannot speak for SGI X-URL: http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/ Reply-To: scotty@sgi.com From: Scott Henry Date: 15 Nov 1997 22:02:23 -0800 In-Reply-To: "Craig H. Nishida"'s message of "Sat, 15 Nov 1997 13:35:07 GMT" Message-ID: Lines: 22 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.64/Emacs 19.34 >>>>> "C" == Craig H Nishida writes: >> Ghost Sweeper Mikami C> Pretty nice TV series but haven't got the manga. Err, if I had my The first part of the manga is pretty good, like what I've seen of the anime series (most of it, actually). The latter part of the series I've grown bored with (probably starting about vol 15, and it's up past 20 now). >> Kodomo no Omocha. C> Of course you already know I love this series. Got the manga (vols C> 1-7 and counting) and the LD box set #1 (TV eps 1-51) and will certainly C> get the next box set when it is issued. I just found out about this series, love it! What, manga vol 7 is out?!??! -- More Important Drivel from: Scott Henry /\/\/\ http://reality.sgi.com/scotth/ From cnishida@netcom.com Sun Nov 16 09:41:44 1997 Received: from netcom5.netcom.com by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id JAA04802; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:41:42 GMT Received: (from cnishida@localhost) by netcom5.netcom.com (8.8.5-r-beta/8.8.5/(NETCOM v1.02)) id BAA07194; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 01:36:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 01:36:43 -0800 (PST) From: "Craig H. Nishida" Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu In-Reply-To: <199711160607.GAA04421@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Scott Henry wrote: > >> Kodomo no Omocha. > > I just found out about this series, love it! What, manga vol 7 is out?!??! Yup. Arrived at Kino-SF over a week ago, I think. Anyway, I bought mine last Tuesday. Craig From rigger@hooked.net Sun Nov 16 11:11:57 1997 Received: from mom.hooked.net by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id LAA04962; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:11:56 GMT Received: from rigger.hooked.net (egypt-55.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.55]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA09975 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:06:37 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971116030216.007a69a0@mail.hooked.net> X-Sender: rigger@mail.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:02:18 -0800 To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu From: Nessie Rilveria Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:35 PM 11/15/97 GMT, you wrote: >It seems "Touch" is decided upon, but I'll comment on these, for the >heck of it. A pretty wide-ranging list, but then, that's sorta like >my manga shelf... ^_^;; > >On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Nessie Rilveria wrote: > >> Ghost Sweeper Mikami > >Pretty nice TV series but haven't got the manga. Err, if I had my >choice about a "ghost story" manga series, I'd probably choose Jigoku >Sensei Nuubei...which I *do* have. (Vols 1-21 and still running) Well as for this Series its 24+ manga. So its a bit of a project. Like the above mentioned Title. >> Kodomo no Omocha. > >Of course you already know I love this series. Got the manga (vols >1-7 and counting) and the LD box set #1 (TV eps 1-51) and will certainly >get the next box set when it is issued. > >> The rest of Princess Army (1-5 are on http://www.ncn.com/~excel/) > >Well, we can leave that to them, then. ^_^ Or to Karen Duffy. Well its looked like that its not being continued. I've gotten all 12 of the manga. But I'll just wait and see. >> Escaflowne > >Hmm. The manga? I picked up the shoujo-version, but it only ran for >2 volumes. The shounen version is way too different from the TV series >(which came before the manga, so I consider to be the "real" Escaflowne). >Just can't get into a story where Hitomi is in a Drama Club, rather >than the Track Team. OK. There are only one set of manga. Then the FILM COMIC! There isn't a shounen and the shoujo versions. The manga is the original manga story the film comic is in manga format, using clips from the TV SERIES! Thats the difference. HECK EVEN ON THE SPINE IT SAYS "NEWTYPE FILE BOOK" THIS ALSO GOES ALONG THE LINES OF THESE OTHER FINE TITLES: Neon Genesis Evangelion: Manga and Film Comic Martian Successor Nadesico: Manga and Film Comic Mahou Tsukai Tai: Manga and Film Comic and Also Blueseed: Manga and Film Comic PLUS various others out there. >> Handsome na Kanojo > >Don't have it. But then, this is by the same manga-ka as "Marmalade >Boy" so maybe as a change-of-pace, it should be avoided. ^_^ I've >heard that her current series, "Mint na Bokura" I think is the title, >is very good. But Zahara is summarizing or translating those as it >comes out. Very good series. I still haven't found translations out there. But then these are just titles I'm tossing out there. >> Magic Users Club. > >Very Cute OAV Series! Someone told me that the OAVs spawned two >manga series, shounen & shoujo, just like the Escaflowne TV series did. >Don't have 'em, though I'd probably like to, if either are like the >OAVs. (Seen the fansubs of OAVs 1-4: high production values, and >Sae-chan/Nanaka-chan/Akane-chan are cuter than Hell) 3 mangas and 1 Roman Film comic. Lots of shots of the girls from the OAV's. Tons of production line art. Interviews with the Seiyuu cast. Otherwise really cute stuff. Then theres the really important information. :P~ Sawanoguchi Sae B-day: 12-31-79 B*W*H 80-55-85 Nakatomi Nanaka B-day: 9-17-79 B*W*H 83-55-84 Aikawa Akane B-day: 10-3-80 B*W*H 86-52-86 Why is it always the youngest that is the most STACKED? Am I digressing here? :P >> Nadesico > >Great TV series. The only other LD box set I have, so far ^_^. The manga >character designs are poor, though (unlike the TV series). Another one >of those manga series that were spawned by the animation series, I think. Actually the original manga artist is the same as Compiler, Assembler, Silent Mobius. Very good artwork I'd say.. But then thats only my opinion. The manga actually came out first. Its just that the manga series sorta stopped for production on the tv series. Compiler and Assembler are 2 more considerations. >> Ayashi no Ceres > >I'm pretty sure my friend's sister is scripting this as it comes out. >She's a fanatic Fushigi Yuugi fan (more so than me) and is crazy about >Watase Yuu. Fansubbing the FY OAV II series, too, almost as soon as >they are sold. Well, I have the Ayashi no Ceres manga (vols 1-4 and >counting) but there's no need to do it independently of her. I haven't done much research on this title. I have all 4, and am also a Watase Yuu fan. Even all of her short stories. Those are great. Then there is FY. >> A!MG > >I have vols 1-15, but since this is appearing in comic book stores >(Dark Horse), it's one of those situations where it's best not to >mess with it, I think. I completely forgot about these being translated by Dark Horse. I've stopped collecting the US releases upon finding out that per chapter I'm paying something close to $3.00. Where as I can get 5-6 chapters for an average of $5-8.00. Which is a difference of $7.00. Viz is one of these worst. I can't believe that I spent all that time looking and trading for the Viz translated Ranma. (volumes 1-4, or Manga volumes 1-4) each for about $2.00 a comic, where as I can get 4 mangas for WAY CHEAPER! Yep! All 38 are sitting on my shelf. 15+ are even first printing. Not that they are of much resale value. >> Natsuki Crisis. > >OAVs 1-2 were fun. Haven't seen the manga. Natsuki Crisis is published in Young Jump Comics. I have 1-5. If your looking for them look up these ISBN numbers. VOL 1 = ISBN4-08-861641-3 C9979 500YEN VOL 2 = ISBN4-08-861642-1 C9979 500YEN VOL 3 = ISBN4-08-861643-X C0379 460YEN VOL 4 = ISBN4-08-861644-8 C9979 500YEN VOL 5 = ISBN4-08-861645-6 C0379 500YEN I know that this series continues on to volume 10+ But the title is a bit hard to find. I love the artwork though. How about Kenshin? I know that Mixx is doing Rayearth, so thats out. Slayers? Nessie Rilveria rigger@hooked.net Bay Area Animation Society BAAS Exec. Staff, Web Admin, Fremont Showing Coordinator, Video Archivist Tenkawa_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212, Hayama_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212 http://www.wenet.net/~rigger From rigger@hooked.net Sun Nov 16 11:16:21 1997 Received: from mom.hooked.net by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id LAA05017; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:16:20 GMT Received: from rigger.hooked.net (egypt-55.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.227.55]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA10610 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:11:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971116030642.007a0280@mail.hooked.net> X-Sender: rigger@mail.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:06:43 -0800 To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu From: Nessie Rilveria Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:07 AM 11/16/97 GMT, you wrote: >>>>>> "C" == Craig H Nishida writes: > >>> Ghost Sweeper Mikami > >C> Pretty nice TV series but haven't got the manga. Err, if I had my > >The first part of the manga is pretty good, like what I've seen of >the anime series (most of it, actually). The latter part of the >series I've grown bored with (probably starting about vol 15, and >it's up past 20 now). How can you say that about Mikami-san! > >>> Kodomo no Omocha. > >C> Of course you already know I love this series. Got the manga (vols >C> 1-7 and counting) and the LD box set #1 (TV eps 1-51) and will certainly >C> get the next box set when it is issued. > >I just found out about this series, love it! What, manga vol 7 is out?!??! Yup Picked it yup already. God I wish I was still able to watch episodes 75+. *sigh* Nessie Rilveria rigger@hooked.net Bay Area Animation Society BAAS Exec. Staff, Web Admin, Fremont Showing Coordinator, Video Archivist Tenkawa_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212, Hayama_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212 http://www.wenet.net/~rigger From chris@ivision.co.uk Sun Nov 16 16:42:11 1997 Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id QAA05541; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:42:10 GMT Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk [194.154.62.72] by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 1.62 #1) id 0xX7hA-0005fd-00; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:37:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 16:37:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Rijk To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Life after MB... In-Reply-To: <199711161111.LAA04967@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Nov 1997, Nessie Rilveria wrote: >At 01:35 PM 11/15/97 GMT, you wrote: >>It seems "Touch" is decided upon, but I'll comment on these, for the >>heck of it. A pretty wide-ranging list, but then, that's sorta like >>my manga shelf... ^_^;; Touch sounds fine to me. >>On Sat, 15 Nov 1997, Nessie Rilveria wrote: >> >>> Ghost Sweeper Mikami >> >>Pretty nice TV series but haven't got the manga. Err, if I had my >>choice about a "ghost story" manga series, I'd probably choose Jigoku >>Sensei Nuubei...which I *do* have. (Vols 1-21 and still running) > >Well as for this Series its 24+ manga. So its a bit of a project. Like >the above mentioned Title. chapter 300 came out on the 5th of this month in Japan. I've found 9 volumes of this summarised, but none translated. >>> Ayashi no Ceres >> >>I'm pretty sure my friend's sister is scripting this as it comes out. >>She's a fanatic Fushigi Yuugi fan (more so than me) and is crazy about >>Watase Yuu. Fansubbing the FY OAV II series, too, almost as soon as >>they are sold. Well, I have the Ayashi no Ceres manga (vols 1-4 and >>counting) but there's no need to do it independently of her. A few odd chapters have been translated, but that's it. >I haven't done much research on this title. I have all 4, and am also a >Watase Yuu fan. Even all of her short stories. Those are great. >Then there is FY. FY's been translated. >>> Natsuki Crisis. >> >>OAVs 1-2 were fun. Haven't seen the manga. Yawara? >How about Kenshin? being translated already - 6 vols have been done already. http://users.deltanet.com/~newcomb/ruroken.htm >Slayers? The original stuff is 14 novels (ie, almost no pics) so far, and there's also 12 or something collected volumes of Slayers Special. There is some manga - one volume's worth by the original author and artist, and 5 others, pretty much spawned by the anime. I intend to translate that single volume sometime... actually, I want to be able to read the novels too... need to work on my kanji a lot though... which is why I wrote a program to help me memorise kanji and such. It's available on the 'Net too - anyone can use it, though it's still in beta: http://stingray.ivision.co.uk:8080/chris/nt/ Koko wa Greenwood? Dragon Half? Well, okay, Touch's been decided on, so never mind... -- +---- Chris Rijk --- chris@ivision.co.uk --- http://www.wot-club.org.uk/ ----+ | Dictionary of Alternative Meanings: marriage | | A romance in which the hero dies in the first chapter. | From paulcs@sirius.com Sun Nov 16 18:24:55 1997 Received: from mail3.sirius.com by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id SAA05748; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 18:24:55 GMT Received: from lizard (ppp-asft01--029.sirius.net [205.134.227.29]) by mail3.sirius.com (8.8.7/Sirius-8.8.7-97.08.12) with SMTP id KAA15217 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 10:19:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <346F4647.7565@sirius.com> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 11:15:20 -0800 From: paulcs Reply-To: paulcs@sirius.com Organization: ouch X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Life after MB... References: <199711161642.QAA05546@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Rijk wrote: > > Yawara? I believe Jay Fubler Harvey began work on translating Yawara a while back. He's posted a number of chapters in various stages of incompletion on a website in Finland. I *suspect* Jay has been so busy with the Turnpike and the rest of his life that this particular project has been moving very slowly. Nothing posted has been completed and little has changed over the last couple of years. If someone were to tackle Yawara, and what a wonderful thing that would be, I suggest they contact Jay, just out of courtesy. Also, he's done a lot of the preliminary work. I believe he has 14 chapters posted in rough draft stages. With Jay's permission, whoever decides to tackle this series could have a running head start. > > Koko wa Greenwood? > The first chapter of this series was translated a long time ago. As far as I know, nothing has been done since. Paul paulcs@sirius.com From ray@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Sun Nov 16 23:28:14 1997 Received: by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id XAA06336; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:28:14 GMT Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 23:28:14 GMT From: "William C. Ray" Message-Id: <199711162328.XAA06336@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Subject: Re: Life after MB... > I believe Jay Fubler Harvey began work on translating Yawara a while... Just for the record, I think it was yet another project team working from the original Venice, and later from soyokaze that I believe started off that project - with alot of the people here involved: Kimagure@venice.mps.ohio-state.edu ha9581sp@meteor.uscolo.edu gokuu@gnu.ai.mit.edu pthirose@rosarita.engr.ucdavis.edu ray@calvin.biosci.ohio-state.edu awong@Emerald.Tufts.EDU rchan@pw.usda.gov cnishida@netcom.com ruyeyama@ranma.com bruce.duffy@chemek.com were on the list to the end, if my records are correct. Unfortunately, it appeared to die a rather lingering death as the rough translations were being doubly used for both manga, and for working out the translations for subbing the TV series, and the list would degenerate into month-long squabbles over whether vocal sound-effects (sneezes, etc) should be included in the subbing script... Anyway, just a pointless historical note on which to waste a few more braincells... Will Ray ray@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu From cornetts@dmapub.dma.org Mon Nov 17 02:47:35 1997 Received: from nohar.rcinet.com by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id CAA06709; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 02:47:35 GMT Received: (from smap@localhost) by nohar.rcinet.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id VAA23464 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:42:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from dmapub.dma.org(199.18.212.16) by nohar.rcinet.com via smap (V2.0beta) id xma023456; Sun, 16 Nov 97 21:42:17 -0500 Received: (from cornetts@localhost) by dmapub.dma.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id VAA04442 for mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:42:16 -0500 From: Steven Cornett Message-Id: <199711170242.VAA04442@dmapub.dma.org> Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 21:42:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <199711161116.LAA05022@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu> from "Nessie Rilveria" at Nov 16, 97 06:16:22 am Content-Type: text How about Shoujo Kakumei Utena, whose manga started before the TV series. The feedback about the series I've heard says it's pretty good, even if a little bizzare at times. Steven P. Cornett cornetts@dmapub.dma.org From rigger@hooked.net Mon Nov 17 03:11:23 1997 Received: from mom.hooked.net by soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu (8.7.5/1.950110) id DAA06836; Mon, 17 Nov 1997 03:11:22 GMT Received: from rigger.hooked.net (italy-39.ppp.hooked.net [206.169.225.39]) by mom.hooked.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA26852 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:05:48 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971116190132.007b8c20@mail.hooked.net> X-Sender: rigger@mail.hooked.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:01:34 -0800 To: mboy-trans@soyokaze.biosci.ohio-state.edu From: Nessie Rilveria Subject: Re: [MB-MANGA] Life after MB... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:47 PM 11/16/97 GMT, you wrote: > > How about Shoujo Kakumei Utena, whose manga started before the TV >series. The feedback about the series I've heard says it's pretty good, >even if a little bizzare at times. > >Steven P. Cornett >cornetts@dmapub.dma.org I forgot about these. As far as I remember.. There are only 3 volumes out. A friend of mine has volume 3. As the first 2 are very hard to find. I've tried to find them before. But since there are other readily avaliable titles out there. I kinda put them in the back burner. Nessie Rilveria rigger@hooked.net Bay Area Animation Society BAAS Exec. Staff, Web Admin, Fremont Showing Coordinator, Video Archivist Tenkawa_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212, Hayama_Akito @ ranma.muck.com 1212 http://www.wenet.net/~rigger