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Craig wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, Jeanne <jhedge@waterw.com> wrote:           J>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Yutaka <sleeper@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu> wrote:  Y>
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 
> Y> Again, the subject is a bit different.  It's Meiko that "cherishes" the
> Y> possibility.  The <HImeteru> is more like "possesses" here, I think.
> 
> "possesses" as in "holding secret the possibility"?

Yes, but I don't know if the "secret" part is really that necessary,
although the original is <HImeteru>...  IMHO, it's just one of those
phrases that don't transfer well directly...

...And looking at the later posts, I see that you've ignored the
"secret" part.

> J> >---------------------------------------------------
> J> >
> J> >Next up!
> J> >
> J> >Miki's worried about the competition for Yuu's affections...  And goes
> J> >head-to-head with...Miwa-san???  <hen naa...>
> J>
> J> Oh, geez...  surely Miwa isn't really.... 'dangerous'?
> Y>
> Y> Very dangerous yo! ^_^
> 
> Auiggh!  You just couldn't resist that, could you, Yutaka...
> 
> No, I'm not explaining any more of your non sequitur jokes to the poor
> helpless readers of the MB-trans ML.  ^_^
> 
> 
> Craig "Rhythm, rhythm!"
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...And exactly what does this mean then, I must ask? ^_-


And Jeanne wrote:
> > > Meiko:
> > >   Certainly...                    tashika ni
> > >
> > >   Various things come to mind     koko ni        KUru to    iroiro
> > >   when I come here...             to-this-place  when-come  several/various
> > >
> > >                                   OMOiDAshichau               kedo
> > >                                   recall/remember-(finality)  but
> >
> Paul> no.  this 'trivializes' it, i think.  i think it's more the 'sweet memory'
> > type of thing, and it's important to her.
> >
> Craig>Okay, back to the original.  Almost...
> >
> >===>
> >173-1
> >Meiko:
> >  Certainly...                    tashika ni
> >
> >  I recall various things         koko ni        KUru to    iroiro
> >  when I come here...             to-this-place  when-come  several/various
> >
> >                                  OMOiDAshichau               kedo
> >                                  recall/remember-(finality)  but
> >
> >  But it isn't unbearable         ZENZEN    tsuraku     nanka     nai
> >  at all.                         entirely  unbearably  somewhat  not-have
> >
> 
> 
> <sigh> I give up with you guys.  There isn't ANY feeling of "sweet memory",
> as Paul put it, with the newly revised translation.  Even Yutaka, at one
> point, said (of the original translation):
> 
> Y> I think "I have many memories of
> Y> this place" would be better, although then it'd no longer literal.

I don't remember saying this, but I guess I did ^_^;;

...The reason I must've said that it'd no longer be literal was because
it makes "OMOiDAshichau", a verb, into "OMOiDE", a noun.  And I wasn't
sure if Craig wanted to take a non-literal approach.


But I do agree with Jeanne that it doesn't have that "sweet memory" feel
to it, with the "recall various things" phrase.  It sounds like she's
testifying at a trial ^_^;

This is slightly off the literal also, but maybe just simply:

"I remember many things when I come here..."

??


---Yutaka